Who do you take at 9th Overall

[YoSoyLalo]

Stepan was several years younger and had term on his contract.

If Stepan had 12 months left on his contract;

and the 7th pick was the 4th pick;

and the 2017 draft was the 2018 draft;

Arizona is not making that trade.

We simply cannot keep comparing the Stepan trade to a potential Zucc trade. That is a recipe for disappointment.

The Stepan trade is not, nor will it be the barometer for a Zucc trade.

I would say the Nash trade is far more comparable.

And, honestly, I question if Zucc holds the same value around the league that Nash.

 

[NYR]

What kind of picks do you think we'll end up with from Tampa after Stevie Y poaches Zucc?

 

[KingDeathMetal]

What kind of picks do you think we'll end up with from Tampa after Stevie Y poaches Zucc?

Given our trading history with them - probably a 5th rounder and future considerations.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Stepan was several years younger and had term on his contract.

If Stepan had 12 months left on his contract;

and the 7th pick was the 4th pick;

and the 2017 draft was the 2018 draft;

Arizona is not making that trade.

We simply cannot keep comparing the Stepan trade to a potential Zucc trade. That is a recipe for disappointment.

The Stepan trade is not, nor will it be the barometer for a Zucc trade.

I didn’t use the Stepan trade as a barometer for a Zuccarello deal. My point was that Arizona is a team, based upon moves they have recently made, looking to add veterans to become a playoff contender. Zuccarello by himself doesn’t get a top ten pick, and I have not suggested that in any of my proposals.

 

[kovazub94]

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We simply cannot keep comparing the Stepan trade to a potential Zucc trade. That is a recipe for disappointment.

The Stepan trade is not, nor will it be the barometer for a Zucc trade.

Funny how many of us were initially disappointed with Stepan trade (some still are) before taking a moment to be able to rationalize it.

 

[kovazub94]

I didn’t use the Stepan trade as a barometer for a Zuccarello deal. My point was that Arizona is a team, based upon moves they have recently made, looking to add veterans to become a playoff contender. Zuccarello by himself doesn’t get a top ten pick, and I have not suggested that in any of my proposals.

Arizona will not take a chance on acquiring Zuke (for a value that Gorton would seek) if his extension with them is not in place.

 

[Fvital92]

I would say the Nash trade is far more comparable.

And, honestly, I question if Zucc holds the same value around the league that Nash.

I agree, and I think it's crazy, Zucc is so much more valuable than Nash these days that he should double what we received from Nash.

 

[Edge]

I agree, and I think it's crazy, Zucc is so much more valuable than Nash these days that he should double what we received from Nash.

It’s the pedigree.

Even years later, those former top picks tend to still generate a little extra on trades.

 

[trilobyte]

What kind of picks do you think we'll end up with from Tampa after Stevie Y poaches Zucc?

I can't really see Yzerman identifying Zucc as a need.

 

[eco's bones]

Yzerman has a late 2nd this year. Effectively he has both his 1st and 2nd for next year tied up because of his deal with us--unless his team wins the Cup this year which will mean he'll probably have another late 2nd next year. Zuccarello as a rental IMO is worth more than both of those 2nd's combined. I think so anyway. We've cut way into their stockpile of prospects. Yzerman's not trading for Zuccarello.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I think LA could be a dark horse location as a landing spot for Zuccarello.

 

[Irishguy42]

I think LA could be a dark horse location as a landing spot for Zuccarello.

Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I can't really see Yzerman identifying Zucc as a need.

He had a chance to acquire him this deadline and passed.

Zucc's value is in his contract (esp with retention) for teams who are looking to make some noise in the post season and don't want to break the bank in UFA or by going bonkers by trading for a bigger name. LA/CBJ/DAL all seem like reasonable landing spots with Calgary as a dark horse but they'd have to get creative.

Fox and a small add for Zucc would be a coup.

 

[RangerBlues]

Button is never too far off.
https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-mock-draft-post-lottery-edition-1.1071168

 

[Machinehead]

Button is never too far off.
https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-mock-draft-post-lottery-edition-1.1071168

lol at our choice of Boqvist or Wahlstrom.

Lord, just take me now I can die a happy man!

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'd do a lot to get the#10 pick in that case and take both of them.

 

[Machinehead]

I'd do a lot to get the#10 pick in that case and take both of them.

It's Edmonton, too! They probably bite on something stupid.

 

[RangerBlues]

Boqvist and Wahlstron has been a consistent fallers and Kotkaniemi has been rising.

 

[trilobyte]

He had a chance to acquire him this deadline and passed.

Zucc's value is in his contract (esp with retention) for teams who are looking to make some noise in the post season and don't want to break the bank in UFA or by going bonkers by trading for a bigger name. LA/CBJ/DAL all seem like reasonable landing spots with Calgary as a dark horse but they'd have to get creative.

Fox and a small add for Zucc would be a coup.

Yep, I get the whole thing about his value for the right team, I just never thought that the Lightning would be a candidate. I definitely could see a team like Dallas as being a team that feels some pressure to produce. That is the kind of the team that the Rangers will try to identify and take adantage of.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Button is never too far off.
https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-mock-draft-post-lottery-edition-1.1071168

This mock is actually really good.

Someone check Button’s pulse, pls.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Hopefully someone leaks some racist tweets right before the draft so Svech can fall to 9th

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Hopefully someone leaks some racist tweets right before the draft so Svech can fall to 9th

Or he gets Laremy Tunsiled and a video of him smoking weed gets leaked

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Or he gets Laremy Tunsiled and a video of him smoking weed gets leaked

If this happened he prob wouldn’t even be drafted in round one

If at all

This is the nhl

 

[kovazub94]

Could you see any of this draft’s high profile wingers be converted to center?

 

[Gardner McKay]

Button is never too far off.
https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-mock-draft-post-lottery-edition-1.1071168

Interesting. Kotkaniemi moved up to 8th. I have to agree with @Machinehead if we have our choice of Wahlstrom or Boqvist at 9? Ehrmagod. That would be awesome.

It's Edmonton, too! They probably bite on something stupid.

It wouldn't surprise me. I doubt it would happen but if Gorton could pull it off? Amazing.