VanIslander
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Indeed.
He'd be a playoff nomad all star.
In pre-NHL lingo: a ringer.
(eg., HHOFer Art Ross was a Stanley Cup challenge ringer for Montreal, Kenora and Ottawa. There were a few others.)
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Who are the best nomads of all time?
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He'd be a playoff nomad all star.
In pre-NHL lingo: a ringer.
(eg., HHOFer Art Ross was a Stanley Cup challenge ringer for Montreal, Kenora and Ottawa. There were a few others.)
Puck Dogg
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Bill Guerin had 20+ goal and over 100 PIM seasons with four different teams.
crobro
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Bure was injured for most of his stay in NY. When he did play, Bure was a shell of his former self.
The Panther
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Okay, thanks for settling it!
Glenn Hall... never thought of it! Gadsby I know next-to-nothing about, though I should have thought of Mahovlich.
Good call on Art Ross. Definitely a nomad before he settled down as coach and GM of the Bruins. You really fired up the wayback machine on that one.
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Panther? You owe it to yourself to check out Bill Gadsby. Arguably the Greatest Checker All Time in terms of just sheer impact, tough as nails, heavy hitter & totally clean.... not to mention quite the character.... and one lucky to have even survived childhood as in 1939 while accompanying his Mother on a trip to the UK, return voyage aboard the Athenia & just hours after Germany invaded Poland with England declaring War.... U-Boat torpedoed the Athenia killing 112 passengers & crew, Bill & his Mom left bobbing around out in the frigid North Atlantic in a lifeboat for something like 5hrs before rescue finally arrived..... then as an adult, player, contracted Polio which very nearly completely derailed his career as Im sure you can imagine. One of my all time favorite players. Scrappy. Gritty as Hell. Knew his angles, fearless shot blocker. Big Cauliflower ears on the guy. Colorful language of course & took zero **** from anyone.
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Larouche is a great choice. 50 goals with Montreal and Hartford and 48 with the Rangers!
FerrisRox
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He scored at a 48 goal pace as a New York Ranger, hardly a shell of his former self.
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Damphousse was the first name to come to mind, particularly because he had high-quality seasons for three teams in back-to-back-to-back years (TOR in 90-91, EDM in 91-92, MTL in 92-93). Then throw in SJ. Turgeon is another (BUF, NYI, MTL, STL).
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Yeah, Damphousse is a weird one. (But he had only one season in Edmonton, so I'm not sure he fits the general criteria.) Damphousse led three different Canadian franchises in scoring over three seasons. That's strange.
Was Turgeon really great with Montreal?
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I guess it depends on your definition of "great". In 95-96, he scored 96 points and led the Canadiens in scoring (albeit only two points ahead of Damphousse). That year he was 17th in the league in points. To me, that counts as a "great" season.
GreatGonzo
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Ron Francis? High level player in Hartford, hitting his peak/prime in Pittsburgh, and then consistently remind a top playmaker with a top 10 finish in Carolina.
Recchi? He’s like the ultimate Nomad. 3 stanley cups with three different teams. Had a great season in Pitt, followed it up with some 100 point seasons in Philly, his second stint in Philly was still impressive, while his stint in Montreal was short, he was still a very productive player. Don’t know about “elite”, but still very good.
Does Pronger count? He was a top defenseman in St. Louis and Anaheim, but I feel he was still elite in Edmonton and Philly, just not at the same level. He did have 3 stanley cup appearances with 3 different teams, being a vital part all 3, with being the best player and possible Smythe favorite(if they won) in ‘06 with the Oilers.
Recchi? He’s like the ultimate Nomad. 3 stanley cups with three different teams. Had a great season in Pitt, followed it up with some 100 point seasons in Philly, his second stint in Philly was still impressive, while his stint in Montreal was short, he was still a very productive player. Don’t know about “elite”, but still very good.
Does Pronger count? He was a top defenseman in St. Louis and Anaheim, but I feel he was still elite in Edmonton and Philly, just not at the same level. He did have 3 stanley cup appearances with 3 different teams, being a vital part all 3, with being the best player and possible Smythe favorite(if they won) in ‘06 with the Oilers.
The Panther
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Fair enough, I don't really know. Wondered what Montreal fans think.
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How about Mogilny? Elite seasons in each of Buffalo, Vancouver, NJ, and TOR.
He was all right but Damphousse was the man and everyone was waiting for Koivu to arrive. It is all subjective, and depending on definitions - I think he was a good 1C but not really great. Turgeon was a good nomad but out of all the Habs roughly during those times Recchi would be a far better choice, in my opinion.
CHGoalie27
Don't blame the goalie!
When he did play, he still scored a shit ton of goals.
When he played, he played at more of an elite level than any other pro om the team of milluonaires at the time.
Anyway, I'm throwing both Kovy & Straka in the ring. Tho Marty didnt light it up for FLA he played them thru the playoffs and earned his spot to the SCF anyway.
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MOGILNY should be in the HOCKEY HALL OF FAME no doubt, Their are FAR way less talented players than MOGILNY in the HOF. Fedorov/Bure are in “MOGILNY” should and probably will get the call as well one day!!!
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Ray Whitney was elite for Panthers (71 points), Blue Jackets (76 points, wore "C") and Hurricanes (83 points, wore "A"). He also wore "A" with Dallas Stars during his last active seasons.
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Pat Lafontaine... another one of those guys whom it's easy to forget spent the last year(s) of his career on the Rangers. Went 23+39 in 67 games, second on the team behind Gretzky in 1997-98, a lousy year for the Blueshirts.
Wow, that roster is just chock full of over-30's whom I've forgotten spent time with the Rangers -- Bruce Driver, Tim Sweeney, Kevin Stevens, Mike Keane, Brian Skrudland, Jeff Finley, Ulf Samuelsson....
Wow, that roster is just chock full of over-30's whom I've forgotten spent time with the Rangers -- Bruce Driver, Tim Sweeney, Kevin Stevens, Mike Keane, Brian Skrudland, Jeff Finley, Ulf Samuelsson....
TheMoreYouKnow
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Is 3 teams really all that much in the modern era or in a 15+ year career for that matter? The salary cap seems to have somehow reduced this a bit (less room for contenders to stockpile stars), but in the 80s through 90s there was a lot of big name trading going on. It seems like almost every star of that time played on 3 teams at least in their career.
I wouldn't think of Chelios as a nomad for example. Chelios spent 7 years on the Habs, 9 years in Chicago and 10 years in Detroit. He became part of the 'inventory' at all of those stops.
Mark Recchi would be the first one to come to my mind as an actual nomad, simply because he was one of those guys who was an All-Star level scorer but no-one ever seemed to view him as a franchise player. Dude played on 7 teams, including two stints each with Philly and Pittsburgh, and managed to put on two different uniforms in the same season on six separate occasions. His longest stint was 5 years and some change with Philly.
Ray Whitney wasn't as good as some of the others mentioned here, but I also remember him as a solid scoring journeyman who'd stay a couple years and then go to another team. I mean heck he scored 10+ goals with San Jose, Florida, Columbus, Detroit, Carolina, Phoenix and Dallas. Definitely a guy who would have been well advised to rent, not buy, in the cities he played in..though I guess depending on the real estate climate you may make some money buying and selling every 2-3 years.
I wouldn't think of Chelios as a nomad for example. Chelios spent 7 years on the Habs, 9 years in Chicago and 10 years in Detroit. He became part of the 'inventory' at all of those stops.
Mark Recchi would be the first one to come to my mind as an actual nomad, simply because he was one of those guys who was an All-Star level scorer but no-one ever seemed to view him as a franchise player. Dude played on 7 teams, including two stints each with Philly and Pittsburgh, and managed to put on two different uniforms in the same season on six separate occasions. His longest stint was 5 years and some change with Philly.
Ray Whitney wasn't as good as some of the others mentioned here, but I also remember him as a solid scoring journeyman who'd stay a couple years and then go to another team. I mean heck he scored 10+ goals with San Jose, Florida, Columbus, Detroit, Carolina, Phoenix and Dallas. Definitely a guy who would have been well advised to rent, not buy, in the cities he played in..though I guess depending on the real estate climate you may make some money buying and selling every 2-3 years.
FerrisRox
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He had a 96-point season his only full year in Montreal, no player has scored more than that since and the list of Canadiens who have scored more in a single season is a short one.
