Discussion in 'Soccer' started by ViD, Sep 7, 2016.
We beat Netherlands the last time we played, beat Italy the last time we played, and tied Portugal (they tied the game up on the last kick of the game) the last time we played.
8 years ago maybe. When Robben wasn't crippled and Sneijder wasn't old. This current Dutch edition? No, just no.
Italy is not built to stomp teams. They're tactically strong and tough to beat, sure, but they won't have a field day against a team like the US that can't play with possession.
But you can just take sporadic matches between sides that especially don't see each other all too often into great account. The European teams discussed on this page just have more quality and more top level depth.
Take Portugal for example who probably rank somewhere just below the true euro heavies and their record at European championships since the turn of the century.
I don't think many would suggest the USMNT would achieve those type of consistent top tournament finishes let alone qualify for every tournament if having to do so those UEFA.
It was said that we would be stomped. Teams like Portugal, Netherlands might be slightly better, stomp just isn't apt. Those teams don't stomp the Switzerland's, Austria's, etc on a consistent basis.
Portugal is a really bad example of a European team that the United States should be completely overwhelmed and worried by. Especially since you reached back with the dates.
The US has played Portugal in two major tournaments in that time frame being in their group. They beat Figo and the boys and were unlucky to draw with them in Brazil. Both times they advanced out of the group ahead of Portugal.
A team that could go that deep in the tournament suggests if the USA was qualifying for the Euro at some point they would have likely had some encouraging results.
Honestly I would love if the USA was allowed to exit their region and play in European qualifying (like Australia leaving Oceania for Asia) I think it would elevate their performance seeing better team more regularly. That or a consolidation of the Conmebol and Concacaf regions.
Greece and Portugal are not world beaters and they have managed to win the Euros. It is not hard to believe that the US could have a big tournament and that they would still likely represent top two in their group in World Cup Qualifying. Yes they would risk more in terms of needing a good draw at times or the right playoff matchup. It also sort of ignores the idea that in a two leg playoff that Columbus, Seattle or Kansas City would be easy dates for whatever European team. They have a substantial record at those places when the chips are down and qualifiers aren't really the same either when evaluating how exactly you think Ireland, Portugal or Switzerland is likely to fair in that playoff format as well.
The problem is that at the WC the U.S. profits from the underdog/wild card status it's usually afforded. For Portugal a game vs the U.S. is basically one they should win but not usually the game they will have on their minds whereas for the U.S. it's a big big game and they tend to overachieve in those games.
If the U.S. played these teams all the time in competitive fixtures, that effect would wear off probably.
USA & Russia. Sweden 3rd.
The Swiss shouldn't be in this poll, they are NOT a top hockey team.
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