Which players will compete with Malkin this season for the Art Ross?

[Dzonna]

C’mon lol u know Mcdavid will win this one consistently unless he plays 75 games or less

 

[Hynh]

It's not unrealistic for Malkin to outscore Mcdavid. Let's not pretend Mcdavid has won those two rosses by a landslide.

Over the last 2 seasons the top 5 scorers are

1. McDavid 208
2. Kucherov 185
3. Crosby 178
4. Malkin/Marchand 170

Giroux getting hot doesn't help someone else win the next year.

 

[daver]

Over the last 2 seasons the top 5 scorers are

1. McDavid 208
2. Kucherov 185
3. Crosby 178
4. Malkin/Marchand 170

Giroux getting hot doesn't help someone else win the next year.

He has finished .03 and .01 ahead of the 2nd best in PPG each year. Assuming everyone else is healthy, 75 games for McDavid is likely not winning the Art Ross.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

And Crosby outscored him by 13 in the playoffs

Right, id take Crosby over anyone in the playoffs. But that's not what the topic is.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

If the Hawks PP weren't 12% Kane would be ahead by now.

 

[reeni1]

Malkin has 112p in his last 82 games, but odds are he won't play over 75 games

 

[Kevs Security]

If the Hawks PP weren't 12% Kane would be ahead by now.

Yes. There isn't enough talk about Patr. Ka. For some reason he gets overlooked these days.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

He has finished .03 and .01 ahead of the 2nd best in PPG each year. Assuming everyone else is healthy, 75 games for McDavid is likely not winning the Art Ross.

Lol McDavid was sick for about a month last year and still left the competition in the dust by years end. PPG doesn’t mean anything at the end of the year.

And keep in mind his team was terrible.

 

[Turin]

89 in 75 games is a 97 point pace in 16-17. So relax there

The main difference between Crosby in 17 and Crosby in 14 is prime Kunitz.

 

[Arcade Fire]

lol. The PP for Edmonton has been run in atrocious fashion. Five left handed shots on PP1 and five Right handed shots on PP2.

McDavid is doing it with little help and will continue to do so.

Wtf, is that actually true?!

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

The main difference between Crosby in 17 and Crosby in 14 is prime Kunitz.

I feel like 16-17 Crosby was better
World Cup MVP
Rocket Richard
2nd in hart voting
Conn Smythe

 

[PunkRockLocke]

Pointless trophy.

Conn Smythe is the only individual award that matters.

 

[McFlash97]

It's not unrealistic for Malkin to outscore Mcdavid. Let's not pretend Mcdavid has won those two rosses by a landslide.

No one is pretending anything. However someone is pretending that a guy who just won 2 consecutive Art Ross Trophies by age 21 is not the clear cut favourite to win the Art Ross in a landslide as he enters his prime years lol.

McDavid is the 2nd player in hockey history to have done this.

and your talking about landslide .. cmon man

 

[Taluss]

* Who will come closest to McDavid this year in the Art Ross

 

[Taluss]

Pointless trophy.

Conn Smythe is the only individual award that matters.

Explanation?

 

[PunkRockLocke]

Explanation?

Pretty self explanatory?

Winning the Cup is all that matters. The rest is all fluff

 

[Taluss]

Pretty self explanatory?

Winning the Cup is all that matters. The rest is all fluff

Okay but winning the cup isn’t something that 1 person did all alone. You can’t use cups to compare players that’s ridiculous

 

[Highmarker]

Pretty self explanatory?

Winning the Cup is all that matters. The rest is all fluff

not true. Winning the cup is out of the hands of one player himself.

 

[PunkRockLocke]

Okay but winning the cup isn’t something that 1 person did all alone. You can’t use cups to compare players that’s ridiculous

I'm not (right now, at least). I just don't really care about comparing players, I find comparing teams more productive

 

[Taluss]

I'm not (right now, at least). I just don't really care about comparing players, I find comparing teams more productive

Yes depending on terms. Fair enough though but I’ll respectfully disagree. This time last year Ovi didn’t have a cup but he had his own trophies and awards to prove himself individually. I feel like you do need these awards especially for players that are/were in his scenario.

Just my 2 cents

 

[PunkRockLocke]

Yes depending on terms. Fair enough though but I’ll respectfully disagree. This time last year Ovi didn’t have a cup but he had his own trophies and awards to prove himself individually. I feel like you do need these awards especially for players that are/were in his scenario.

Just my 2 cents

Yup, fair enough. I used to care more about the Art Ross race, Hart trophy, etc. I guess over the years I've just been jaded by good players on good teams with no cups. So that's all that really interests me now.

Don't let my cynicism rub off on you!

 

[Son Goku]

No one is pretending anything. However someone is pretending that a guy who just won 2 consecutive Art Ross Trophies by age 21 is not the clear cut favourite to win the Art Ross in a landslide as he enters his prime years lol.

McDavid is the 2nd player in hockey history to have done this.

and your talking about landslide .. cmon man

That's all fine and well but Evgeni Malkin is one of the players who can steal a Ross from Mcdavid. Only two players in history were guaranteed to win the scoring title.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Malkin
McDavid
MacKinnon
Kucherov
Kane
Crosby
Marchand

all have a chance.

Still put my money on McDavid but Malkin is my number 2.

I see many include Rantanen but I see almost no chance for him. I know he's currently in the lead but he's been very lucky and there is no way he keeps it up and all of the players I listed above are better than him.

You Sir are absolutely correct. He has no talent whatsoever. It’s all pure luck. Some would even say he’s the luckiest player in all of sports. I saw a game once where he accidentally passed the puck to MacKinnon twice then he scored one himself, also by accident. I remember thinking to myself, omg this guy is lucky...

Either way, I don’t see anyone but McDavid winning it. He’s just too dominant once he gets going.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

That's all fine and well but Evgeni Malkin is one of the players who can steal a Ross from Mcdavid. Only two players in history were guaranteed to win the scoring title.

Mcdavid is looking like he might make that a trio. Not that he is anywhere close to those two but there are no generational talents in his age group to compete with. If Crosby Ovechkin and malkin were all 21-25 again it would be a different story.

 

[42]

You Sir are absolutely correct. He has no talent whatsoever. It’s all pure luck. Some would even say he’s the luckiest player in all of sports. I saw a game once where he accidentally passed the puck to MacKinnon twice then he scored one himself, also by accident. I remember thinking to myself, omg this guy is lucky...

Either way, I don’t see anyone but McDavid winning it. He’s just too dominant once he gets going.

I did not say he has no talent. You're reading stuff in between the lines that doesn't exist. I said his current production is inflated because of luck (he should finish with 80-ish points, hardly enough for the Art Ross) - see his oiSH% Mikko Rantanen Stats | Hockey-Reference.com