Which of these players will and wont get in the HOF

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  1. Rabid Ranger 2 is better than one

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    To be honest none of these guys are HOF worthy. The closest are Weber and Doughty and IMO they both fall short.
     
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    Weber could have had three Norrises if things went his way. He'll be in the hall.
     
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    ...but he doesn't and there's the rub. That said, I think that will be an argument in his favor and I agree that he will likely get in. Out of the players the OP listed he's probably the most deserving.
     
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    I mean by being called "Hall of Fame" should have alot to do with Fame, and i mean, Leaving NJ the way he did sure did give him fame :sarcasm: Joking aside, Kovalchuk has more points than perry in the NHL and he left for years. :laugh:
     
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    Even if he doesn't win one, and he still can if he keeps up his play or the voters give him a farewell tour one, he'll end up the best defenseman to not win one and will get in for that alone.
     
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    He doesn't though. And he only has 2 runner ups that were close enough to say he might have won. He was close to 2nd in '14, but well back of 1st place. And Doughty has 2 runner ups on top of his Norris as well.

    I do think Weber should and will get in, but I don't think there's much question that Doughty is more of a slam dunk.
     
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    The two closest runner ups in history though, he doesn't have a Norris but he's only 21 votes away from having 2 Norrises, and of course the notorious '14 season where he probably should have been closer to the Hart than the Norris with what he did.

    Doughty will get in first ballot, but I doubt Weber would have to wait too long if he's not a first ballot as well.
     
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    Marleau No
    Perry No
    Getzlaf Yes
    Kovalchuk Hell no
    Weber No norris , no cup . No.
    Letang No
    Doughty Yes.
    Burns No
    MAF No*
    Rask No*
    Quick No*

    * Goalies are just dont know

    Shouldn't be that easy to enter the Hall of Famer smh
     
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    Weber should have 1 norris, he was robbed in 2011 so the writers could give lidstrom 1 final norris even in a season where he wasn't even close to be good enough to win it.
     
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    Good point, hall of fame does tend to show more bias towards players with Olympic medals. For NHL stats though I feel like Letang has had a much better career statistically excluding defensive performance.
     
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    I say no to all except Weber, Quick, and Doughty. Rask could make it, but he needs a few more years padding his resume, because the body of work just isn’t there.
     
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    I was actually unsure about Weber, but he made 4 all-star teams. Are there any players with that many at any position that aren’t in? He missed another by 1 vote. Add to this that he’s still playing at a high level. He’s going to have the peak, and a lengthy career of being good to go with it. I’m calling him a lock.
     
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    Perry has 4 other seasons where he placed top 5 in goals and 1 other where he placed top 10 in points outside of 2011. He has 2 first AST's and has had a key role in multiple Canadian Gold Medal teams.
     
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    Every one of them will or won’t.
     
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    Hopefully he will make it 4.
     
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    Agree with this only caveat I might have is that I think Rask is as much borderline as Quick. And personally id rate the former above.
     
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    Weber came within a hair of winning TWO Norris trophies. He lost arguably the two closest racers ever, and was outright robbed in 2011. He's the best d-man of his era after Doughty/Karlsson. Nevemrind that hes been a key part of multiple Canada Gold teams and is an all around beast.
     
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    Once again, why wouldnt Rask get in? I believe he's close to, if not number one for playoff sv%, a Vezina, a couple Jennings, multiple Vezina nominations, great international record and a cup win (even if it wasnt as a starter).
     
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    Rask will probably make it. He has been a model of consistency

    Almost won the Vezina again last year
     
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    Doughty should be the only lock from that list IMO

    Rask with the outside shot
     
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    I don’t think any of them should be in, but if you made me have to pick one it would be Rask.
     
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    Again, two finals appearances as the starter (one where he was the landslide Smythe winner if they won the last game), two jennings, a vezina, multiple nominations, international team starter, top 10 all time playoff sv% (even higher if you use a bigger game sample).

    Add in a cup win even if he wasn't the starter and I dont see how his resume isn't there?
     
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    If Weber was playing behind those Pens teams he has 50 more goals and 120 more points plus a few Norris trophies. Will still finish around 275 goals and 700+ points. Easy 300/ 825 with better teams.

    Bottom line with Weber is he will finish in top 10 goals all time by a D man, is one of the nest defensive dmen in the past 50 years, and was top 3-5 for 12 years. Playing behind garbage teams his whole career. This is a guy that spent ten years of his prime playing behind Legwand, Fisher and Ribeiro. This Preds teams only got good his last 100 games or so.

    Guy is a complete unicorn. On pace for 15G and 50 points again this year, he probably is a top 4 into his late 30s. Complete first ballot lock and would be considered an all timer if he had played on the teams Lidstrom or Letang played on.
     
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    Rask is a lock as well.

    Not on the list, Price will get in unless the next 5 years are a disaster. Will get to 475 wins with a shot at 500 which will make him top 5-7 all time. And Montreal has a good team that will go on a run the next 5 so should be his best teams as of yet. Goalies tend to age well so wouldn't be surprised to see him win some hardware over the next 5.
     
  25. Kegsey Defense be scared, Hertl coming.

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    You guys know Marleau is 25th in goals all time, right? It’s not just the fact that he will have the most games played ever, and he has Olympic gold. Ya’ll are crazy if you think he isn’t getting in, especially with some of the names people are throwing around to be “locks.”
     

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