Which NHL Franchise Would Have The Worst All-Time Roster?

GlitchMarner

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If every team could construct an all-time roster comprised of any players that played for it, with the caveat being no team could choose players who didn't spend at least two seasons with it (so Gretzky wouldn't be eligible for the Blues for example), which franchise would have the worst all-time roster?

I think it would come to down to MIN, CLB and FLA...

NSH would have a stacked defense and WPG/ATL would have a lot of fire power (Kovalchuk, Heatley, Hossa, Laine, Wheeler etc)...

TB would be strong just by combining the best players from the 2004 Cup-winning team and the 2015 team that lost in the SCF.

OTT would have a strong defense (Chara, Karlsson, Redden, Phillips etc) and some talented forwards...

ANA would add Kariya and others to the stacked '07 team...

SJ would have the best from the Thornton era as well as the likes of Damphousse, Ricci, Whitney, Nolan etc...



FLA would have Barkov and Bure and then... guys like Horton, Weiss and the Jokinens. The all-time Panthers team would be quite under-whelming, I would think.
 

VanIslander

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Nashville's all time leader in goals, assists and points is David Legwand.

Legwand.

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Zegras Zebra

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So to clarify, would the players selected be at their "peak" regardless who they played for at the time, or would it be based on how they played with that specific franchise?

ex. Would Edmonton Oilers Wayne Gretzky be better than LA Kings and NY Rangers Wayne Gretzky, or would it just be peak Gretzky?

As for the actual question I would assume Columbus would have the worst all time roster as really all they have is Rick Nash and Bobrovsky at their best, and maybe Federov if he was there long enough if you are going by all time peak.
 

CHGoalie27

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Best overall, or best while they were on the team's roster?

Florida would get Jagr (and also prime Luongo).

If peak anywhere, Kovalev too. Nieuwendyk. Tikkanen.

Florida wouldn't have the worst. Especially with goaltenders. Beezer, Lu, and Belfour.

Nashville wins this thread I think.
 

mrhockey193195

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I'd imagine Nashville would win, they have the least amount of star power. Weber, Suter, and Subban would make for a very good defense. Rinne and Vokoun in goal. But up front, they are lacking. Peter Forsberg doesn't make it since he didn't play two seasons for them. They *would* have Kariya, Arnott, Johanssen, Neal, F. Forsberg, Steve Sullivan. I think Atlanta/Winnipeg and Columbus have better forwards than that.
 

MaxV

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So to clarify, would the players selected be at their "peak" regardless who they played for at the time, or would it be based on how they played with that specific franchise?

ex. Would Edmonton Oilers Wayne Gretzky be better than LA Kings and NY Rangers Wayne Gretzky, or would it just be peak Gretzky?

As for the actual question I would assume Columbus would have the worst all time roster as really all they have is Rick Nash and Bobrovsky at their best, and maybe Federov if he was there long enough if you are going by all time peak.

I would imagine that it has to be what the player was during his time with the team.

Bobby Orr played for the Hawks. But it would be ridiculous for him to make their roster.
 

GlitchMarner

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I would imagine that it has to be what the player was during his time with the team.

Yes. This.


Nashville looks something like...


Kariya - Johansen - Dumont

F Forsberg -Arnott - Radulov

Sullivan - Legwand - Erat

Hartnell - Fisher - Walker


Suter - Josi

Weber - Timonen

Zidlicky - Ellis


Rinne


FLA:


Whitney - Barkov - P Bure

Huberdeau - O Jokinen - Horton

Booth - Weiss - Mellanby

R Niedermayer -Viktor Kozlov - old man Jagr


Jovanovski - McCabe

Ekblad - Bouwmeester

Svehla - G Murphy

Luongo



Yeah, NSH is worse...



Columbus:


Foligno - Johansen - Nash

Sanderson - Brassard - Zherdev

Huselius - Dubinsky - Atkinson

Hartnell - Vermette - Vyborny


Jones - Werenski

J Johnson - Savard

Klesla - Tyutin


Bobrovsky



Johansen versus Johansen... so much fun. That's a wash.

Kariya > Foligno

Nash > Dumont

Forsberg > Sanderson

Arnott > Brassard (NYR Brassard was the best Brassard)

Radulov = Zherdev (Rad is better now; they were both enigmas early on)

Sullivan > Huselius

Legwand > Dubinsky

Atkinson > Erat

Hartnell = Hartnell (PHI Hartnell was the best iteration)

Vermette > Fisher (slightly)

Walker = Vyborny


Suter = Jones (Jones should surpass him eventually)

Josi > Werenski (for now)

Weber > Johnson

Timonen > Savard

Zidlicky > Klesla

Ellis > Tyutin

Bobrovsky > Rinne




Looks like Columbus is the worst.
 

Zegras Zebra

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Yes. This.


Nashville looks something like...


Kariya - Johansen - Dumont

F Forsberg -Arnott - Radulov

Sullivan - Legwand - Erat

Hartnell - Fisher - Walker


Suter - Josi

Weber - Timonen

Zidlicky - Ellis


Rinne


FLA:


Whitney - Barkov - P Bure

Huberdeau - O Jokinen - Horton

Booth - Weiss - Mellanby

R Niedermayer -Viktor Kozlov - old man Jagr


Jovanovski - McCabe

Ekblad - Bouwmeester

Svehla - G Murphy

Luongo



Yeah, NSH is worse...



Columbus:


Foligno - Johansen - Nash

Sanderson - Brassard - Zherdev

Huselius - Dubinsky - Atkinson

Hartnell - Vermette - Vyborny


Jones - Werenski

J Johnson - Savard

Klesla - Tyutin


Bobrovsky



Johansen versus Johansen... so much fun. That's a wash.

Kariya > Foligno

Nash > Dumont

Forsberg > Sanderson

Arnott > Brassard (NYR Brassard was the best Brassard)

Radulov = Zherdev (Rad is better now; they were both enigmas early on)

Sullivan > Huselius

Legwand > Dubinsky

Atkinson > Erat

Hartnell = Hartnell (PHI Hartnell was the best iteration)

Vermette > Fisher (slightly)

Walker = Vyborny


Suter = Jones (Jones should surpass him eventually)

Josi > Werenski (for now)

Weber > Johnson

Timonen > Savard

Zidlicky > Klesla

Ellis > Tyutin

Bobrovsky > Rinne




Looks like Columbus is the worst.

Yes! I win!
 

Hobnobs

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Yes. This.


Nashville looks something like...


Kariya - Johansen - Dumont

F Forsberg -Arnott - Radulov

Sullivan - Legwand - Erat

Hartnell - Fisher - Walker


Suter - Josi

Weber - Timonen

Zidlicky - Ellis


Rinne


FLA:


Whitney - Barkov - P Bure

Huberdeau - O Jokinen - Horton

Booth - Weiss - Mellanby

R Niedermayer -Viktor Kozlov - old man Jagr


Jovanovski - McCabe

Ekblad - Bouwmeester

Svehla - G Murphy

Luongo



Yeah, NSH is worse...



Columbus:


Foligno - Johansen - Nash

Sanderson - Brassard - Zherdev

Huselius - Dubinsky - Atkinson

Hartnell - Vermette - Vyborny


Jones - Werenski

J Johnson - Savard

Klesla - Tyutin


Bobrovsky



Johansen versus Johansen... so much fun. That's a wash.

Kariya > Foligno

Nash > Dumont

Forsberg > Sanderson

Arnott > Brassard (NYR Brassard was the best Brassard)

Radulov = Zherdev (Rad is better now; they were both enigmas early on)

Sullivan > Huselius

Legwand > Dubinsky

Atkinson > Erat

Hartnell = Hartnell (PHI Hartnell was the best iteration)

Vermette > Fisher (slightly)

Walker = Vyborny


Suter = Jones (Jones should surpass him eventually)

Josi > Werenski (for now)

Weber > Johnson

Timonen > Savard

Zidlicky > Klesla

Ellis > Tyutin

Bobrovsky > Rinne




Looks like Columbus is the worst.

Gord Murphy? Surely Kulikov has passed him by now? And Brian Campbell?
 

BobbyAwe

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I make up teams like this all the time in my head :)


How I do it - a player can only be on one all-star team, the team he scored the most points with during his career. This way you can imagine the teams actually playing against each other, because you wouldn't have the same guy on 2 opposing teams, which is dumb. This method of deciding what team a player ends up on also works for any low scoring, defensive defensemen picked, because although scoring may have not been their forte, the team they had the most points with would still reflect their prime career years. I also give imaginary perks for players who had legitimate chronic injuries during their careers which may even have affected their peak years, and those whose careers that were cut short by injury.

I know - I am basically pretty lonely ;)
 

BobbyAwe

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Oh, and if a guy is not considered good enough to make the team he spent his best years with, he can be chosen for the team he had his second most points with, and then 3rd if necessary, and so on. Since I am a Bruins fan, here is my all-time Bruin team choices. I have to explain up front I do not consider that many of the REAL old timers would be anywhere near as great in modern times as they were back then. I don't want to start that argument again, but that will explain some of my picks. Also, I want to be sure to pick several tough guys like I would on choosing a real team that was actually going to play. In other ways also, the roster would have to reflect a mix of player types and individual abilities. So maybe I will, for instance, have to make a slight sacrifice for brawn over just skill on a couple choices? Then the * reflects a player whose abilities would need to be magnified a bit because they had career injuries which may have prevented them from ever reaching or sustaining what should have been their peak? How much greater they would have been corresponds to how debilitating their injuries or condition was but, of course, is still just an educated guess.


c) Pederson*
Esposito
Oates
Bergeron

RW) Neely*
Middleton
Crowder
Westfall

LW) Bucyk
Marchand
Lucic
Mohns

D) Orr*
Bourque
Chara
Park*
Kluzak*
Wesley

G) Thomas
Rask

c) Julien


I do actually have what I believe are legitimate reasons for leaving off some players that most would think should be there. But too much to go into in general.
 

sr edler

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Sergei Fedorov played two and a half seasons in Columbus. He wasn't setting the league on fire while doing it, but he would probably make their all time team due to his overall capabilities.
 

Inkling

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What about the Wild? They don't have much history to lean on, and only limited success. They and Columbus are probably in the running.
 

tony d

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Would be a fun exercise to do I think, do the all time roster based upon what said player did with each team and not the course of his career. Could end up be the California Golden Seals.
 

Killion

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I'll see your Scouts and raise you...

In their one-year of NHL operation they did have HHOFers Syd Howe and Wilf Cude and... and... I'm reaching here: Hib Milks and Al Shields.

... :laugh: ya, yeah I think you might have me beat there VanIsle. KC did have some
decent Goalies, Wilf Paiment & Simon Nolet, Guy Charron & a few other solid enough players.
 

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