Which Group Do You Take Going Forward

[LordNeverLose]

Mathew Barzal
Anthony Beauvillier
Anders Lee
Oliver Wahlstrom
Kieffer Bellows
Nick Leddy
Ryan Pulock
Noah Dobson
Ilya Sorokin

vs.

Taylor Hall
Nico Hischier
Jesper Bratt
Kyle Palmieri
Pavel Zacha
Sami Vatanen
Ty Smith
Will Butcher
Cory Schneider

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[ookhaab]

NYI has a lot more what ifs, but obviously more promising roster.

NJ is at the moment the better group.

+ isles just added 2 arguably top 10 picks, while devils made playoffs.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Devils pretty comfortably.

 

[Lemontree]

You need to do a lot of assuming best case scenerio for the Islanders group. At this point the Devils group easily have more NHL players.... if you are undecided the goaltending should tip the scales to the Devils. Goalie prospects are still the hardest to accurately judge,

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Devils group has the two most valuable pieces and are young too so them pretty easily

 

[FlyTimmo]

NYI, better group to tank with. NJ is going to be stuck in limbo.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

NYI, better group to tank with. NJ is going to be stuck in limbo.

Usually tanking is something you do to acquire the good pieces you cant get through trade

That would insinuate the Islanders dont have those pieces and need to tank.... so your point was extremely contradicting

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

The Devils group, if for no other reason than they rely less on "what if" scenarios to pan out. More proven (high end) players on their list.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Usually tanking is something you do to acquire the good pieces you cant get through trade

That would insinuate the Islanders dont have those pieces and need to tank.... so your point was extremely contradicting

Huh...? I think it is pretty simple nor contradictory. The Devils have a better NHL group, but have worse prospects. Nor do I think they will be good enough to compete for a cup with their current group. I'd rather have NYI because they will do worse this year and get better draft picks to add to their prospect pool that is already better. The question isn't who is better. It is who would you rather have.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Usually tanking is something you do to acquire the good pieces you cant get through trade

That would insinuate the Islanders dont have those pieces and need to tank.... so your point was extremely contradicting

I don't see any contradictions there. Better tank with = worse and more likely to lose more games. Which is awful for fans, has its silver linings if you are a GM and need a piece you can only get at the draft.

 

[LordNeverLose]

Devils group has the two most valuable pieces

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[WetcoastOrca]

I picked Devils but I think Barzal may end up being as good as Hall. And I say that even with Hall just winning the Hart.
The kid is the real deal!

 

[SecretOilersFan]

I don't want to seem biased but I think the Hall group easily wins here.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

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Barzal is #3 after Hall and Hischier

 

[LordNeverLose]

IMO I'd rank them as:

Hall
Barzal
Hischier
Wahlstrom
Beauvillier
Lee
Palmieri
Bratt
Bellows
Zacha

Leddy
Vatanen
Dobson
Pulock
Smith
Butcher

And Schneider > Sorokin


I realize I'm biased but I think 3 years from now the NY group will be noticeably better than the NJ group

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

IMO I'd rank them as:

Hall
Barzal
Hischier
Wahlstrom
Beauvillier
Lee
Palmieri
Bratt
Bellows
Zacha

Leddy
Vatanen
Dobson
Pulock
Smith
Butcher

And Schneider > Sorokin


I realize I'm biased but I think 3 years from now the NY group will be noticeably better than the NJ group

I agree with you on that. I think going forward the Islanders will have the best defenseman, best center, and best goalie. Probably the better depth too. I'm not even sure Hall will be better than Barzal going forward

 

[Pyrophorus]

Devs have less unknowns

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

well that poll is going about as expected

We get it you lost Tavares, now get over the denial stage

 

[Mrb1p]

Islanders have more what ifs, Id rather go with the Devils, even though I love Barzal. Hischier aint too shabby.

Hischier and Hall is better than anything Islanders has so far. Smith is also as good a prospect as Dobson and Wahlstrom, so.

 

[M2Beezy]

IMO I'd rank them as:

Hall
Barzal
Hischier
Wahlstrom
Beauvillier
Lee
Palmieri
Bratt
Bellows
Zacha

Leddy
Vatanen
Dobson
Pulock
Smith
Butcher

And Schneider > Sorokin


I realize I'm biased but I think 3 years from now the NY group will be noticeably better than the NJ group

I agree with you on Barzal being above Hischier and could end up pretty damn close or better than Hall. But Hall is a beast. And I think Hischier is an incredible player, so those three are pretty special in my eyes but atm goes Hall, Barzal, Hischier.

I think you have Bratt and Butcher too low in their groups. Bratt is one well rounded player IMO

Anyways overall i chose the Devils for now but both franchises have EXCELLENT pieces going fwd. Both fanbases should be happy with what there building

 

[LordNeverLose]

well that poll is going about as expected

We get it you lost Tavares, now get over the denial stage

LMAO the point is the Islanders are in fine position going forward. You saying they were on par with Ottawa and Montreal is laughable

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

LMAO the point is the Islanders are in fine position going forward. You saying they were on par with Ottawa and Montreal is laughable

Yeah no, it simply blew up in your face

I dont get why you cant just accept whats true, i mean the Islanders didnt have a better core with Tavares so how would they without?