Which fantasy teams would win in a 7 game series this year?

[Joey Moss]

Please help vote on playoff matchups from a Fantasy Draft style GM game. Each number represents a separate series. Each series is the standard 7 game style, assuming everyone is healthy enough to play. Players like Guentzel, Lindblom, D. Hamilton etc should not be evaluated lower based on their current situations. You will vote for 1 winner in 8 different series. Here are the series;

TEAM 1A
Jason Zucker - Connor McDavid - Kyle Palmieri
Johnny Gaudreau - Eric Staal - Joel Armia
Boone Jenner - Adam Lowry - Micheal Ferland
Brock McGinn - Cedric Paquette - Cal Clutterbuck

Sam Girard - Niklas Hjalmarsson
Miro Heiskanen - Dante Fabbro
Mario Ferraro - Braydon Coburn

Anton Khudobin
Jimmy Howard

TEAM 1B
Mike Hoffman - Aleksander Barkov - Joonas Donskoi
Jonathan Marchessault - Lars Eller - Brayden Schenn
Nick Bjugstad - Joe Thornton - Brett Connolly
William Carrier - Tomas Nosek - Ryan Reaves

Thomas Chabot - Zdeno Chara
Brady Skjei - Adam Fox
Brendan Guhle - Zach Whitecloud

Jaroslav Halak
Thomas Greiss

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TEAM 2A
Conor Sheary - Sidney Crosby - Rickard Rakell
Alex DeBrincat - Pierre-Lub Dubois - Mats Zuccarello
Jordan Greenway - Mikko Koivu - Alex Steen
Sven Baertschi - Colton Sissons - Anders Bjork

Dmitry Orlov - Charlie McAvoy
Jake Gardiner - Phillipe Myers
Andrej Sekera - Brandon Montour

John Gibson
Martin Jones

TEAM 2B
Andreas Johnsson - Patrice Bergeron - Clayton Keller
Taylor Hall - Ryan Johansen - Zack Kassian
Miles Wood - Chris Tierney - Arturri Lehkonen
Milan Lucic - Riley Sheahan - Sonny Milano

Marcus Pettersson - Erik Karlsson
Darnell Nurse - Ethan Bear
Jordie Benn - Justin Schultz

Carey Price
Louis Domingue

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TEAM 3A
James van Riemsdyk - William Karlsson - Nikita Kucherov
Zach Sanford - Matt Duchene - Timo Meier
Joel Farabee - Yanni Gourde - Jason Dickinson
Pierre Engvall - Oskar Sundqvist - Trevor Moore

Cam Fowler - Drew Doughty
Vince Dunn - Scott Mayfield
Carl Gunnarsson - Robert Bortuzzo

Darcy Kuemper
Adin Hill

TEAM 3B
Jack Hughes - Dylan Larkin - Patrick Kane
Matthew Tkachuk - Derek Stepan - David Perron
Andrew Mangiapane - Jordan Staal - Josh Archibald
Kyle Clifford - Casey Cizikas - Tyler Pitlick

Alec Martinez - Jared Spurgeon
Jake McCabe - Dylan DeMelo
Shayne Gostisbehere - Matt Benning

Tuukka Rask
Craig Anderson

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TEAM 4A
Tomas Tatar - Sean Couturier - Patric Hornqvist
Jeff Skinner - Paul Stastny - Andrew Shaw
Matt Calvert - Andrew Copp - Nicolas Roy
Nick Paul - Nick Cousins - Colin Wilson

Ben Chiarot - Cale Makar
Torey Krug - T.J Brodie
Jamie Oleksiak - Evan Bouchard

Connor Hellebuyck
Laurent Brossoit

TEAM 4B
Evander Kane - Nathan MacKinnon - Jakub Voracek
Tanner Pearson - Elias Lindholm - Ilya Mikheyev
Nick Ritchie - Roope Hintz - Nolan Patrick
Zemgus Girgensons - Brad Richardson - Chris Wagner

Ivan Provorov - Brent Burns
Ian Cole - Damon Severson
Patrik Nemeth - Sean Walker

Pekka Rinne
Cal Petersen

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TEAM 5A
Anders Lee - Elias Pettersson - Oliver Bjorkstrand
Conor Garland - Nico Hischier - Blake Wheeler
Sammy Blais - Radek Faksa - Matt Nieto
Tyler Ennis - Valtteri Filppula - Adam Gaudette

Zach Werenski - Jacob Trouba
Marco Scandella - Sami Vatanen
Nick Holden - Nikita Zaitsev

Tristan Jarry
Brian Elliott

TEAM 5B
Zach Hyman - Ryan O'Reilly - Alexander Radulov
Anthony Duclair - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Luke Kunin
Calle Järnkrok - Sean Kuraly - Barclay Goodrow
Patrick Maroon - Noel Acciari - Blake Comeau

Jaccob Slavin - P.K Subban
Matt Grzelcyk - Brett Pesce
Rasmus Sandin - Johnny Boychuk

Frederik Andersen
Anders Nilsson

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TEAM 6A
Chris Kreider - Mika Zibanejad - Mark Stone
Nick Foligno - David Krejci - Tyler Toffoli
Warren Foegele - Cody Glass - Dominik Kahun
Marcus Sorensen - Derek Ryan - Kyle Okposo

Oscar Klefbom - Shea Weber
Brenden Dillon - Filip Hronek
Christian Djoos - Justin Holl

Antti Raanta
Linus Ullmark

TEAM 6B
Brandon Saad - Jonathan Toews - Brock Boeser
Gabriel Landeskog - J.G Pageau - Victor Olofsson
Erik Haula - Tyler Bozak - Filip Zadina
Mathieu Perreault - Artem Anisimov - Dillon Dube

Roman Josi - Travis Hamonic
Calvin de Haan - Tyson Barrie
Kris Russell - Slater Koekkoek

David Rittich
Cam Talbot

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TEAM 7A
Mikael Granlund - John Tavares - T.J Oshie
Ondrej Kase - Ryan Getzlaf - Justin Williams
Marcus Foligno - Travis Zajac - Mattias Janmark
Darren Helm - Riley Nash - Mathieu Joseph

Ryan McDonagh - Dougie Hamilton
Travis Sanheim - Jake Muzzin
Victor Mete - Haydn Fleury

Igor Shesterkin
Ilya Samsonov

TEAM 7B
Brady Tkachuk - Steven Stamkos - Teuvo Teravainen
Nikita Gusev - Brock Nelson - Josh Anderson
Jimmy Vesey - Jeff Carter - Rocco Grimaldi
Zach Aston-Reese - Brian Boyle - Alex Chiasson

Mark Giordano - Brandon Carlo
Brayden McNabb - Justin Faulk
Nathan Beaulieu - John Moore

Devan Dubnyk
Jake Allen

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TEAM 8A
Jake DeBrusk - Evgeny Kuznetsov - David Pastrnak
Tyler Johnson - Vincent Trocheck - Kasperi Kapanen
Ryan Donato - Filip Chytil - Paul Byron
Jordan Martinook - Chandler Stephenson - Jordan Weal

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - Jeff Petry
Joel Edmundson - Rasmus Andersson
Oliver Kylington - Trevor van Riemsdyk

Jacob Markstrom
Jack Campbell

TEAM 8B
Jesper Bratt - Anze Kopitar - Brendan Gallagher
Kevin Labanc - Kevin Hayes - Cam Atkinson
James Neal - Dylan Strome - Nicolas Aube-Kubel
Max Jones - Jason Spezza - Bobby Ryan

Josh Morrissey - Seth Jones
Devon Toews - MacKenzie Weegar
Marc Staal - Stephen Johns

Corey Crawford
James Reimer​

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[Panda Bear]

Team Breakdown

Team	Weighted PandaScore	Rank	EV Scoring Impact	Rank3	PP Scoring Impact	Rank4	Elite TOI %	Rank5	Dangerous Scoring Chances	Rank6	Shooting Talent-Adjusted xGoals	Rank7	Created xGoals	Rank8	xGoals +/-	Rank9	Point Shares	Rank10	Goaltending	Rank 11
4A	190.9	1	217.5	9	235.0	15	32.1	9	48.4	1	166.4	6	175.7	4	118.8	1	85.1	10	61.4	1
4B	183.4	5	219.3	7	284.7	2	34.2	1	10.9	14	171.5	3	172.7	8	-9.5	27	90.9	3	41.5	29

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Line Breakdowns

Player	Player	Player		Weighted Score	vs	Weighted Score		Player	Player	Player
Evander Kane	Nathan MacKinnon	Jakub Voracek		85.8		74.6		Tomas Tatar	Sean Couturier	Patric Hornqvist
Tanner Pearson	Elias Lindholm	Ilya Mikheyev		44.5		47.4		Jeff Skinner	Paul Stastny	Andrew Shaw
Nick Ritchie	Roope Hintz	Nolan Patrick		28.5		27.5		Matt Calvert	Andrew Copp	Nicolas Roy
Zemgus Girgensons	Brad Richardson	Chris Wagner		17.8		22.2		Nick Paul	Nick Cousins	Colin Wilson
Ivan Provorov	Brent Burns			89.5		88.4		Ben Chiarot	Cale Makar
Ian Cole	Damon Severson			50.6		68.3		Torey Krug	TJ Brodie
Patrik Nemeth	Sean Walker			23.2		18.2		Jamie Oleksiak	Evan Bouchard
Pekka Rinne				166.1		245.6		Connor Hellebuyck
Cal Petersen				--		--		Laurent Brossoit
				506.0		592.3

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Please note that MacKinnon is scored around 400 while Couturier is around 300. It would have taken @BeLeafing to monumentally f*** up to not have a distinct first line advantage. Compounding this discrepancy is my decision to zig where he zagged in the third and fourth rounds. Scores are weighted according to typical ice times for respective lines and pairings as per the lazy Google search displaying this website.

In sum, I win this on the basis of my second pairing and goaltending. Overall my team is phenomenal at shutting down other teams, and Makar's place on the top pairing will work wonders to nullify MacKinnon's speed advantage that he typically holds.

 

[Panda Bear]

#rollin

 

[Gecklund]

#rollin

There’s a reason there’s no team names posted.

 

[Panda Bear]

There’s a reason there’s no team names posted.

Technically, I haven't provided any information that link a named team to their anonymous counterpart. But I can remind you people about making the right decision.

 

[Gecklund]

Technically, I haven't provided any information that link a named team to their anonymous counterpart. But I can remind you people about making the right decision.

I guess that’s accurate but your rankings don’t give the right decision.

 

[Panda Bear]

I guess that’s accurate but your rankings don’t give the right decision.

At least they inform decisions extremely well. If you're finding a way to argue against things like xGoals or DFFRC%, then you have to check yourself.

 

[Gecklund]

At least they inform decisions extremely well. If you're finding a way to argue against things like xGoals or DFFRC%, then you have to check yourself.

I’m arguing because of where my team is ranked....

 

[Panda Bear]

I’m arguing because of where my team is ranked....

Not my fault you're ranked where you are.

 

[Gecklund]

Not my fault you're ranked where you are.

Don’t act like it wasn’t a personal vendetta against me

 

[Paralyzer008]

The tough part about this vote is usually on multiple choice if you're guessing, you want to pick C.

 

[Panda Bear]

the tough part is watching people pick a worse team

 

[Panda Bear]

> xGoals are a better predictor than goals for future game outcomes
> team 4a has top tier metrics across the board with overwhelming xGoals +/- advantage
> people vote for other team because "MacKinnon"
> dies on inside
> watching Upload
> premise is stupid since human consciousness isn't comparable to a computer in any way
> scientists used to compare human brain to steam engines
> The Machine Stops

 

[hockeynorth]

8B would kill 8As one line team

 

[OB5]

8B would kill 8As one line team

I don't think 8B even has one line....

 

[Panda Bear]

> 4A's xGoals +/- is 119.8
> 4B's is -8.5
> 4A is 128.3 xGoals better over a three year weighted period

> but what about goalscoring talent
> 4A's xGoals adjusted for shooting talent is 166.4
> 4B's is 171.5
> marginal

> hellebuyck who will win vezina
> rinne who posted a 0.895

> somehow 4A is losing 12-20 "cuz mackinnon"

 

[Joey Moss]

> 4A's xGoals +/- is 119.8
> 4B's is -8.5
> 4A is 128.3 xGoals better over a three year weighted period

> but what about goalscoring talent
> 4A's xGoals adjusted for shooting talent is 166.4
> 4B's is 171.5
> marginal

> hellebuyck who will win vezina
> rinne who posted a 0.895

> somehow 4A is losing 12-20 "cuz mackinnon"

Who cares

 

[hockeynorth]

Who cares

Tbh I like pandas charts but I don’t understand that one or what it shows

 

[Joey Moss]

Tbh I like pandas charts but I don’t understand that one or what it shows

We’re really reaching here with all the charts being tossed around. Chill a bit

 

[Panda Bear]

i have no reason to chill

 

[hockeynorth]

i have no reason to chill

The one you just posted = mostly understandable

that one = I need a phd

 

[Panda Bear]

also every bump theoretically increases the chance of participation in these polls

 

[Panda Bear]

The one you just posted = mostly understandable

that one = I need a phd

r^2 is the strength of correlation, so the higher a number the better in this case

the chart is telling us that xGoals is better at predicting game outcomes than Corsi% or GoalsFor%

so if there were a seven game series between chicago and winnipeg, xGoals is gonna be waaaaaaaay better at predicting the outcome than simply looking at the incoming teams' Goals For, Goals Against

 

[hockeynorth]

r^2 is the strength of correlation, so the higher a number the better in this case

the chart is telling us that xGoals is better at predicting game outcomes than Corsi% or GoalsFor%

so if there were a seven game series between chicago and winnipeg, xGoals is gonna be waaaaaaaay better at predicting the outcome than simply looking at the incoming teams' Goals For, Goals Against

Ohhh okay thanks man, I think I sorta get it but not that specific chart. Regardless Hellebuyck is why I flipped to Chicago

 

[hockeynorth]

uh oh