Which Elias was more hyped during the pre-draft of their draft season? Lindholm or Pettersson?

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Both picked 5th overall. Which Elias was more hyped? I don't remember that much hype for Pettersson during pre-draft. It was after that legendary SHL performance that hyped him (and rightfully so).

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[member 147413]

I remember things as Lindholm having more pre-draft hype, but my memory has failed me before.

 

[lawrence]

Lindholm had more hype, and was pegged to be a going shortly after Jones/Mackinnon somewhere in the top 5.

Pettersson was pegged to go after Vilardi, Glass Mittlestadt, and his rankings were quite all over the place, from as low as 15 to as high as 7.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Peterrsson. There was talk he was the best forward in his draft class and that he was being overlooked. Lindholm was seen as a safe if unspectacular 5-7 range prospect.

 

[Ainec]

Lindholm had more hype and it was due to the top 6 of the draft being insanely hyped

Pettersson less so because people declared 2017 as a weak draft (wronggg)

Pettersson always had that high ceiling attached to him however

 

[Ctrain2k]

Pettersson had pretty much no hype in his draft year no one knew who he was because he wasn’t playing in the SHL.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Lindholm. It is a stronger draft and he was expected to go higher

 

[biturbo19]

I think that among a lot of the real hardcore "draftniks" and a lot of posters around here, the answer is probably Pettersson. Lindholm always kinda had a spectre of "safe" hanging over him, with that traditional side order of "potentially lower ceiling". Which i think hurt his hype among a lot of segments of the NHL/draft fanbase who tend to value "upside" over all else.

Lindholm had plenty of hype though, as a sorta "surefire Top-6C". Especially among our insights into that "NHL inner circle".

 

[Paper]

Lindholm had more hype, and was pegged to be a going shortly after Jones/Mackinnon somewhere in the top 5.

Pettersson was pegged to go after Vilardi, Glass Mittlestadt, and his rankings were quite all over the place, from as low as 15 to as high as 7.

There was the big four (or three+Barkov) and then Lindholm and Monahan at 5 and 6. Maybe with the occasional Nurse thrown in, or some other wildcard like Nichushkin but it was pretty set top 4, then 2. When the Flames got the 6th pick the forums had a Lindholm vs Monahan thread because they knew they got "stuck" with whichever one Carolina didn't pick.


You're right that Petterson's draft was a bit more varied, but there were several that had him in the top 5. Including Sportsnet: 2017 NHL Mock Draft: No deficiencies in Nolan Patrick's game - Sportsnet.ca

Overall, pretty similar, I'd say anywhere from 5-8 was reasonable for Lindholm and anywhere from 5-10 for Petterson was reasonable at the time of their drafts, so slight edge to Lindholm. And I'd also say in general that the 2013 draft was more hyped.

 

[lawrence]

There was the big four (or three+Barkov) and then Lindholm and Monahan at 5 and 6. Maybe with the occasional Nurse thrown in, or some other wildcard like Nichushkin but it was pretty set top 4, then 2. When the Flames got the 6th pick the forums had a Lindholm vs Monahan thread because they knew they got "stuck" with whichever one Carolina didn't pick.


You're right that Petterson's draft was a bit more varied, but there were several that had him in the top 5. Including Sportsnet: 2017 NHL Mock Draft: No deficiencies in Nolan Patrick's game - Sportsnet.ca

that's fine, still the hype was not as high. Rankings varied, but overall Vilardi and Cody Glass had more hype then Pettersson.

 

[member 105785]

There was the big four (or three+Barkov) and then Lindholm and Monahan at 5 and 6. Maybe with the occasional Nurse thrown in, or some other wildcard like Nichushkin but it was pretty set top 4, then 2. When the Flames got the 6th pick the forums had a Lindholm vs Monahan thread because they knew they got "stuck" with whichever one Carolina didn't pick.


You're right that Petterson's draft was a bit more varied, but there were several that had him in the top 5. Including Sportsnet: 2017 NHL Mock Draft: No deficiencies in Nolan Patrick's game - Sportsnet.ca

Some rankings had him top 5 but there were many 9-17 rankings as well, Lindholm was a consensus #5-6 pick.

 

[Paper]

Which reasonable rankings had Petterson at 17 shortly before the draft? I'm imagining you're talking Morreale, and if so, might want to see some of his other drafts before considering him reasonable. As for consensus on Lindholm, Hockey's Future had him ranked at 8....Hockey's Future 2013 Staff Mock Draft - Hockey's Future

 

[Love]

Lindholm had a lot more hype but Pettersson was better. Nobody ranked Lindholm lower than 6 and some people had him ahead of Barkov. Pettersson is one of the most overlooked players in his draft year that I can remember in a long time. I don't know how you destroy the Allsvenskan like he did yet people still were worried about his size.

 

[tony d]

Went with Lindholm.

 

[member 105785]

Which reasonable rankings had Petterson at 17 shortly before the draft? I'm imagining you're talking Morreale, and if so, might want to see some of his other drafts before considering him reasonable. As for consensus on Lindholm, Hockey's Future had him ranked at 8....Hockey's Future 2013 Staff Mock Draft - Hockey's Future

Pronman had him 17, ISS Hockey had him 20, Marek had him 15 in June

 

[DaveG]

Lindholm.

The top 6 of the 2013 class was rated extremely highly and he was considered to be arguably the best Swedish forward prospect since Backstrom as he had in fact outpaced Backstrom in the SHL in their respective draft years.

2017 on the other hand was overlooked because of a poor top of the draft compared to the surrounding years. Pettersson's team also did not play in the top league in Sweden that season so despite putting up solid numbers in Sweden's 2nd tier he didn't have quite the same hype until the following season. Also Pettersson was seen as being likely to go anywhere from 3 to 15 or so IIRC because of how wide open the middle of that draft was seen as being.

 

[blinkman360]

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Lindholm had 1st overall talks at some point early in the season. He definitely had more hype.

 

[super6646]

There was the big four (or three+Barkov) and then Lindholm and Monahan at 5 and 6. Maybe with the occasional Nurse thrown in, or some other wildcard like Nichushkin but it was pretty set top 4, then 2. When the Flames got the 6th pick the forums had a Lindholm vs Monahan thread because they knew they got "stuck" with whichever one Carolina didn't pick.


You're right that Petterson's draft was a bit more varied, but there were several that had him in the top 5. Including Sportsnet: 2017 NHL Mock Draft: No deficiencies in Nolan Patrick's game - Sportsnet.ca

Overall, pretty similar, I'd say anywhere from 5-8 was reasonable for Lindholm and anywhere from 5-10 for Petterson was reasonable at the time of their drafts, so slight edge to Lindholm. And I'd also say in general that the 2013 draft was more hyped.

What do you mean stuck with? We got both lol.

 

[EK47]

I remember swedish television covered Lindholm a lot more than Pettersson in the year leading up to the draft. Over here he actually had quite a lot of hype.

On another note why wont NHL teams play Lindholm at center? Everytime I see him play center he looks like a completely different and much better player.

 

[super6646]

I remember swedish television covered Lindholm a lot more than Pettersson in the year leading up to the draft. Over here he actually had quite a lot of hype.

On another note why wont NHL teams play Lindholm at center? Everytime I see him play center he looks like a completely different and much better player.

Idk, but he's looked great with Gaudreau and Monahan so why switch that now?

 

[EK47]

Idk, but he's looked great with Gaudreau and Monahan so why switch that now?

Honestly haven’t seen him all that much in the Calgary jersey but if you say so that’s great, what are your predictions for him this season?

 

[super6646]

Honestly haven’t seen him all that much in the Calgary jersey but if you say so that’s great, what are your predictions for him this season?

I mean assuming the scoring starts to slow down to a reasonable pace, I'd expect 20-25 goals and around 55-60 points. Definitely the best rw to play with Gaudreau and Monahan to date (that includes jiri hudler), and honestly he just provides a lot to his game (great on both ends of the ice, strong with the puck and isn't half bad along the bords, and has no problems keeping up with that top line).

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Even amongst Canucks fans/media Pettersson wasn't talked about as much as guys like Glass, Vilardi, Mittelstadt at #5.

Pettersson's upside wasn't questioned but he still never seemed to be in the spotlight. I think Lindholm had more attention from the overall hockey world throughout his draft year.

 

[tarheelhockey]

On another note why wont NHL teams play Lindholm at center? Everytime I see him play center he looks like a completely different and much better player.

His skill set is more center-ish than winger-ish, but he doesn't drive offense enough to displace an ordinary C from that spot in the lineup. He'd be a fantastic checking center, but you don't want to pigeonhole a guy like that because he does have some offensive skill. So what happens is someone else takes that C spot away from him, and he ends up being shifted to wing where he can still play the defensive matchups and has a little bit easier time offensively.