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No Tanev. He is absolute trash.Tanev, Pesce and Ekholm would be my top 3 realistic targets.
There is no way Tanev gets Nylander as a return. Nylander is worth way more.
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No Tanev. He is absolute trash.Tanev, Pesce and Ekholm would be my top 3 realistic targets.
I would love Parayko on this team. Alas I think it's a pipe dream. It would take Willie ++ if St.Louis is even remotely interested.For what it's worth, here are some charts from HockeyViz for a couple of the right handed defensemen mentioned here. We'd be interested in the Isolated column as that their individual impact. The top graph is the offense they create compared to league average and the bottom is the offense they allow. So for example, Ryan Ellis generates 0.9% LESS offense compared to league average defensemen, and he allows 1.1% LESS offense compared to league average. Parayko on the other hand generates 3% MORE offense than league average and allows 8.5% LESS offense compared to league average.
Ryan Ellis:
Colton Parayko:
Brett Pesce:
Josh Manson:
Matt Dumba:
Jared Spurgeon:
Rasmus Ristolainen:
Tanev, Pesce and Ekholm would be my top 3 realistic targets.
If it had to be a prospect or someone outside of the NHL, I think Dante Fabbro from Nashville would be a pretty good name. Would have to be a massive add from their end though.Most of the focus is on established NHL defencemen, but who knows, it could also be more of a general cap-saving move/depth/youth move (with good upside of course to have a decent chance at getting a good player or players).
Take the Duchene trade for example. Colorado got Samuel Girard, a pretty highly touted NHL ready D prospect, Bowers (a recent 1st), a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Kamenev (coming off a 51 point AHL season at age 20), and a spare part in Hammond.
So a guy like Girard... maybe not as exciting a name as Parayko, Ellis, Pesce, etc. But he's playing top 4 minutes effectively right now and has an ELC caphit, and Colorado is likely to get another ~2 NHL pieces out of that package as well, which will contribute at low caphits at first.
If there's a good enough young NHL ready D coming back that you can confidently project as an NHLer with top 4 upside, and then 3-4+ other picks/prospects (including valuable pieces like a 1st, recent 1st-rounder prospect, etc), then that type of trade could be a good option. For example something like Connor Timmins+++.
If it could have been done for FAIR MARKET VALUE, he'd be signed and in the lineup already!Sign him.
Shea Weber would be near the top of their list.
I don't think many here would be happy with that.
All the D mentioned in this thread would be awful returns for nylander
Parayko?All the D mentioned in this thread would be awful returns for nylander
Since they're worse than Rielly would they be healthy scratches since he's a third-pairing D?All the D mentioned in this thread would be awful returns for nylander
If Nylander is to be traded, the Leafs must receive at least a 1st round draft choice and two roster players who are not stiffs.
Nylander is damaged goods at this point. The team having him, is taking a chance.
Who wants to pay full price for that? No one.
At age 33, Weber is on the downside of his career IMHO.I'd be ecstatic about that.
But for Montreal to trade him to the Leafs, and potentially make them the juggernaut favourite to win the cup...noooooot likely.
We want no part of Weber, especially for Willy.At age 33, Weber is on the downside of his career IMHO.
We shall see just how many games he remains on the active roster now that he has experienced that tendon tear in his left foot.