Which D is most tradeable?

[Bomber0104]

Gardiner is injured right now.

Rielly won`t be with the team until at least next year and even then it isn`t a gurantee.

Liles is a mentoring role right now with Gardiner and maybe even Rielly who will need to be taught a lot at the NHL level from a veteran. Liles will most likely be traded before the end of his contract but there is no rush atm.

Ok so Liles gets traded. Now pick one of Phaneuf, Gardiner, or Rielly.

I think Rielly is a keeper. Phaneuf I'd love to see sent packing but he won't get as much as Gardiner in a trade straight up.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

Gardiner and Rielly can't improve defensively because they are soft.

Can't have Phaneuf, Liles, Gardiner, and Rielly.

Pick two and use the other two to trade to fill holes in the lineup.

We don't need that many offensive defencemen.

Gardiner and Rielly also aren`t soft. They will both take a hit to make a play. Are they bruisers though not even close.

Soft is Kaberle in his last few years in Toronto giving up the blueline because he was afraid somebody might get within 3 feet of him and maybe bump him.

 

[AuGsY]

Ok so Liles gets traded. Now pick one of Phaneuf, Gardiner, or Rielly.

I think Rielly is a keeper. Phaneuf I'd love to see sent packing but he won't get as much as Gardiner in a trade straight up.

I'd like to see phaneuf and Komisarek gone the most. Combined they take up over $11m in cap space.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

Ok so Liles gets traded. Now pick one of Phaneuf, Gardiner, or Rielly.

I think Rielly is a keeper. Phaneuf I'd love to see sent packing but he won't get as much as Gardiner in a trade straight up.

I`m okay keeping all of Phaneuf, Rielly and Gardiner. Your trying to labal a player is either only offensive or only defensive. It doesn`t work that way.

With the turn over from team to team all of them could eventually be traded.

What is your trade timeline

 

[leafspring*]

I'm talking a top 4 defender not a bottom pairing guy and Fraser will never be a top 4 defender

I don't have numbers on our defensemen. I think thats BS. The only defining difference in relation to defensemen is who are your best PP quaterbacks,and you need 2 on a team.

Playin good defense is first,and foremost,and Fraser has been playin defense as good as any on the team. In context to team play he is right up there in terms of quality of play. There is no numbers on quality play.

Carlyle's type player. Works his squirrel food off in practice too. Perfect fit on the team,why knock him!

 

[bunjay]

Dion should never play with either because he sucks defensively himself and adding Gardiner or Rielly wouldn't help with that.

Gardiner and Rielly together would get eaten alive by NHL forwards so they can't play together.

And that means that one of them is going to have to play third pairing minutes.

Factor in Liles too, and there's just too many offensive/PP specialist defencemen on this team. Way too many.

Trade Gardiner and identify actual holes in our roster rather than wasting a potential asset on the 3rd pairing.

Reilly is not even 19 years old and has never played an NHL game, we're already deciding what he can and can't do?

Gardiner has lots of room for improvement. To me Phaneuf is actually more effective when he's not trying to be an offensive d-man. Whatever he had going in Calgary, he's pretty much lost it. He's not good on the PP, and focusing on defensive positioning is the most helpful thing he could possibly do for his team.

 

[Bomber0104]

Reilly is not even 19 years old and has never played an NHL game, we're already deciding what he can and can't do?

Gardiner has lots of room for improvement. To me Phaneuf is actually more effective when he's not trying to be an offensive d-man. Whatever he had going in Calgary, he's pretty much lost it. He's not good on the PP, and focusing on defensive positioning is the most helpful thing he could possibly do for his team.

I've decided for myself what Rielly can and can't do based on watching him at the junior level.

Gardiner is a big time softie who couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag.

Phaneuf is atrocious defensively and would only be a 2nd pairing, 2nd unit PP guy on good teams.