Jihadi Flames Fan
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Forwards are soft. 'D' is soft. Kipper is playing soft! And people when everyone predicted us to finish last.
Usually a topic is started to discuss something...
I'm confused.
I'm asking where all the grit went. What's so confusing about that?
The grit is on the 4th line.
We need our goalie to have grit?I'm asking where all the grit went. What's so confusing about that?
Oh yeah! Steve BEGIN, Tim JACKMAN, Blake COMEAU.
Kipper is doing alot of things like sucking but soft isn't how I would describe it.
We have been gritty for years that got us to the first round and out no thanks I want skill
You need both. The Flames are not nearly good enough to rely just on their "skill".
Right we need grit thats why the really gritty teams we have won some many cups? Grit is the most overrated thing in hockey, the Hudler line tonight because of quick smart passes and the willingness to compete. I am tired of this Sutter mentality that toughness wins championships, no it doesn't skill does every time.
You need both. The Flames are not nearly good enough to rely just on their "skill".
Then maybe they need more skill. Or help on defense. Or for our goalie not to suck.
Although I recognize the lack of grit, not once have I been watching this team this year and said "Hmmmm, we could really use some more grit out there". We need tighter defense and more finish.
That's not what he's saying. He's saying the Flames don't have enough gritty, tough players on the club to complement the skilled players. As I've mentioned twice in this thread, the best teams in the game have skill, grit, and toughness. Just look at the recent Stanley Cup winners.
LA, Boston, Pittsburgh, and Chicago - all skilled, gritty, tough teams. These teams aren't rolling out 3 skilled, undersized lines. They have 2 scoring lines, a hard-nosed checking line, and an energy line. The Flames team that won the Stanley Cup had these 3 elements and the same line structure.
The Flames are a soft team. Feaster went too far in trying to get more skill that he ignored the importance of having gritty, tough players. The best teams in the League have a great balance of skill, grit, and toughness. The Flames don't have that.
Hit the nail on the head. Feaster did a complete 180.
The difference is top teams have Gritty skilled guys Brown,Lucic,Hartnell etc the players we could get would be just grit and just grit is ****ing useless. He have Glencross and Iginla(kinda) I would rather run with all skill then get just grit.
The Flames are a soft team. Feaster went too far in trying to get more skill that he ignored the importance of having gritty, tough players. The best teams in the League have a great balance of skill, grit, and toughness. The Flames don't have that.
Look at a team like Ottawa. They have 2 pretty good scoring lines, and their third line consists of Zach Smith, Chris Neil, and Colin Greening. This line is sound defensively, provides a ton of energy when they're on the ice, and have chipped offensively (10 total points between the 3 of them). Often when the Sens are down or the momentum is shifting, Paul MacLean puts this line out to get the momentum back, and they often succeed.
Some games, you win with skill, but there are games where you need to grind out wins. Sure it helps to have top-6 forwards that are skilled and gritty, but it also helps to have a 3rd- and/or 4th-line that can set a physical tone, make hits to shift the momentum, and just be able to wear down the opposing team's defensive corps.