Post-Game Talk: Where's all that talent Bob?....

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  1. Raoul Duke

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    The breakout pass, the shot/pass from the point, perfect defensive positioning, not a stride wasted, not to mention the old school punishment he’d dish out.
    Even a freaking penalty shot goal ffs!!
    As well known as he was, I still think he was underrated. Damn near the perfect D man.

    In relation to the current tone of this thread, I seem to remember people criticizing his skating and talk of him being lazy during the regular season.
     
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    Holy **** 25+ pages of people ****ting on Drai after a loss lmao.

    Similar losses in the past where guys like Larsson/RNH/Nurse make dumb mistakes and cost us the game get like 10-15 pages.

    making a scapegoat out of the second best player on this team, yikes... not a good look
     
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    It’s very Oilers though.
     
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    HFOil eating their young and chewing up their soft bones. Drai is a star and should not be **** upon. Does he have some defensive work to improve on, yes like many other younger players. I recall Messier having some pretty brain dead moments too in his early development. The worst thing that could happen here is to ride his ass so hard that he loses all confidence and gets moved to (pick some place) for a 1st pick and loose parts like is the typical outcome here and then he comes back to rise above like a phoenix win a bunch of awards and maybe a Cup.
     
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    We all love Draisaitl...

    The Draisaitl defense force is very committed to answering every bit of criticism aimed at him...

    It just drags on and on...
     
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  6. Raoul Duke

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    This reminds me of the hockey moms in the stands at my kid’s midget games who think their kid should play more because he tries soooo much harder than the kids who get more ice time.
    Never mind that their kid is terrible and the kids getting played are the only ones who can score. (Because they’ve worked hard on getting good)

    The moms think they understand the game because they’ve been in the stands for years and know all the cliches.

    They’ll point out when the “favoured” players get scored on. (Ignoring the 3 or 4 goals they’ve scored)
    The play is so obvious (from the stands) and the players just need to hustle more.
    Their kid would never have been so lazy on a play. (Ignoring the 3 or 4 goals they’ve given up)

    The kids just need to be a TEAM!!
    Everyone treated equally!!

    It’s mostly nonsense, of course.
    The good players win hockey games. Sometimes they make mistakes.
    Sometimes carrying the team is just too much.

    Maybe the Oil just need some orange slices for intermission.
     
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    Wow - why does this issue have to be so polarizing and people jumping out to the extremes? It was a bad play by Draisaitl - he got caught floating again and not engaged in what was around him. It was both a mistake AND a lack of commitment to be defensively aware. The first is excusable. Excusing the second creates losing teams. All players make mistakes, and when they do, those mistakes get talked about in the room. He's our second best player, but why defend a bad play when that's an avoidable offense? He wouldn't excuse that to his teammates, nor should he. Do we lash out at him as fans? That's not likely to help either.

    This thread is just the result of the relentless despair that comes from cheering for the Oilers. Take it easy on each other.
     
  8. GreatKeith

    GreatKeith Only In Last Every Regular Season

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    He's a Hockey Canada crony and wants to remain in the good books.

    He's doing more or less what the org wants him to unlike the last coach.
     
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    For those ****ting on Drai, have yourself a fun time and google the endless amount of "controller disconnected" gifs from various NHL stars. Ovechkin and Crosby are featured prominently.
     
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    To me it's 25 pages because people are very adamant in defending him, not because so many more are jumping on him. I actually bet that more people would jump on Larsson/RNH/Nurse for a misstake like this (heck I've seen 3+ pages of GDT bashing of these players for plays which weren't really misstakes...), difference is fewer would be defending it. Which is alright by the way, but this is not some odd example of 25 pages of Drai bashing vs 10 pages of bashing of another player for a similar play.

    Anyhow, let it go and move on. Drai is part of the solution, not the problem when it comes to turning this team around.
     
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    Just to point out that the defense came into the thread in response to the absolutely inane, and idiotic suggestions that Draisaitl should be healthy scratched. Which ironically are occurring in a thread called
    "wheres all the talent"

    I realize its a waste of time but some things are just so inordinately misguided, if not hilarious, its almost impossible not to respond.
     
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    Really don't think anyone said healthy scratched. Difference between benching a guy until the next period or taking away his PP time, then healthy scratching him
     
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    Can't speak for others but my foray into the thread was elicited by the Draisaitl should be healthy scratched posts and some people actually agreeing with that. In this thread, haha, with this thread title. My lord the inanity.
     
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    Overall point is if Hitch wants to come out and call the team out then he needs to call himself out as well. Yes the players need to as a whole play harder, but he sure as hell doesn't give the little guy much reason to play hard
     
  15. GreatKeith

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    He said he knew how it fix it in 8 or 9 games and the team looks even worse than they did under McLellan. Was the goal to lose?
     
  16. Frank the Tank

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    We've said this about the last 7 coaches. One could argue that the style of play in the NHL may have passed Hitchcock by, but the guy knows what level of compete and attention to detail is required to win championships.
     
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    Personally, the reason for defending Draisaitl so adamantly here is the insinuation that this bad play amounts to his attitude being representative of what’s wrong with the team.

    It’s not.

    Lack of talent is.

    Furthermore, we’ve seen this before.
    Recently.
    It leads to moving an extremely talented player out in the name of “character”, further eroding the talent available.

    People will respond with “Nobody’s saying trade him”.

    I would answer with “Yet”.

    We’ve seen it too many times.
     
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    No chance .He is too old to play politics
     
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    What coach DOESN'T know this? Coaches don't just go out there and tell players to dog it. How did this team actually get worse under this coach? That's what I want to know.
     
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    Hitchcock hasn't been associated with hockey Canada for 5 years. He wants to retire, not jump behind the bench for Canada any time soon.
     
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    He's too old period. The game has passed him by. He was just another easy answer for an org that's full of them.
     
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    There are other positions besides coaching. Hockey Canada is poison to this team. Why do you think he was so easily swayed to come here? The Oilers didn't even look at anyone else.

    If he wants to retire, now is as good a time as any.
     
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    Great post. I think this is what most of us are trying to say. Draisatl is a great player but he can be better. I don’t see what the issue is for wanting to hold everyone accountable for their game, no matter who they are. This isn’t the same thing as flaming a player. It isn’t only Draisatl, obviously, but those two plays I’ve commented on were so bad they got my attention. I’m sure next game it’ll be someone else.
     
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    Hmm, so he took this job because he wants to retire?

    It couldn’t be he’s interested in one of those red wine lifetime Oilers appointments in his own back yard, could it?
     
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    Fair comment. Hitchcock’s biggest mistake since he came here was riding half a dozens players too hard. I get why he did it but it’s not sustainable for very long.
     

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