Friedman: Duchene Mega-Thread Pt. 1 - Ottawa fielding offers, NSH & CBJ interested; Duchene sitting

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Ottawa as much as I think the sens want to keep stone they realize a center is more important plus the optics of only getting two years from the trade.

Ottawa isn't letting him walk for nothing

 

[Jay haller]

Ottawa isn't letting him walk for nothing

Agreed, that why they resign him.

 

[sansabri]

What would Habs offer for him? Not so up to date with your prospects so can't really judge. But im curious.

Nothing. Why would we be interested?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Agreed, that why they resign him.

No chance, that requires them spending money and they don't

 

[RedWingzz]

I think it's pretty clear this guy is going to be dealt as a rental, so the talk of "not being able to sign him" is moot. This guy has the same agent as Tavares and has been pretty open about that process being intriguing to him. Now that he is a few months away from Free Agency I think the idea of a sign and trade is a pipe dream.

Bidding likely starts at a 1st round pick, your teams 3rd/4th best prospect and a low level roster player on an expiring contract. Anything more than that would be a bonus, anything less than that would be an atrocity on Dorion's behalf.

Prepare to be disappointed my friend.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I would love to have him at 2C in NJ this summer

time to start using that abundance of cap space to overpay for players

 

[Taluss]

Nothing. Why would we be interested?

Seriously? All you guys have been asking for is a 1C, if you could get him and sign him especially in the position your in now it would be golden.

Why wouldn't you want him?

 

[stempniaksen]

Prepare to be disappointed my friend.

My expectations are already low. He's not gonna return less than Brassard, there's not a chance in hell.

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

The Habs have a developing #1 in KTK and Duchene has never performed in a pressure situation except in a sheltered role (Olympics); additionally, Montréal would not give anything of substance for Duchene. Columbus might be likely, but again not sure they want to give anything for someone who isn't exactly a playoff performer, he still has to round that part of his game.

 

[Mario Lemieux fan 66]

Seriously? All you guys have been asking for is a 1C, if you could get him and sign him especially in the position your in now it would be golden.

Why wouldn't you want him?

Because there is a large pool of UFA forwards and Habs are likely to sign one for free. Our assets would be better use to trade for a top 2 or 3 LHD.

 

[BondraTime]

I would love to have him at 2C in NJ this summer

time to start using that abundance of cap space to overpay for players

#2? Who on the Devils even comes close to Duchene as the #1? Nico would not be close to him at this point in time.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

#2? Who on the Devils even comes close to Duchene as the #1? Nico would not be close to him at this point in time.

1A/1B? Is that better?

I think they would make a hell of a center duo, lets just leave it at that.

 

[57special]

This doesn't sound like the guy we've seen for the last calendar year in Ottawa. I understand the optics of him going from one struggling team straight to another team that took a nosedive. Strictly looking at his on-ice play though he's absolutely been a legitimate #1 Center for the Senators. In an ideal world the Senators keep him (I'm not sure you'll find a single Sens fan who disagrees either) but we also know the realities of the situation.

I'm not trying to change your mind on him, but your post sounds like someone who has been reading about him on here and not actually watching his play on the ice. I don't blame you though, I wouldn't watch the Sens if I could avoid it.

And you would be wrong. We played against the Duchene/Avs for years in the Central, and have a fierce rivalry. I have probably seen Duchene play more games than you have. Wild fans were hyper aware of Duchene and Mackinnon when they used to come in and terrify us with their speed and skill. Then they both, but particularly Duchene, had a couple of years where he was not quite a non entity, but certainly not anything like he was earlier on in his career. We would play games against the Avs and I could barely recall a thing that Duchene did.

Maybe Roy just freaked Duchene out. He was kind of a nutjob. Or it could be that Duchene is just turning it on in a contract year.

 

[Miller Time]

Dallas or NYI

 

[SensFactor]

Personally I think there is a chance he signs in Ottawa still. However, if he is dealt he is going to a place in the West. I'd see him going to Minny, Anaheim or St. Louis

 

[SensFactor]

Although Winnipeg would be a great fit too

 

[Snowman]

Although Winnipeg would be a great fit too

Not really. The Jets can't afford him next year and won't pay what the Sens want to use him as a rental.

 

[22FUTON9]

And you would be wrong. We played against the Duchene/Avs for years in the Central, and have a fierce rivalry. I have probably seen Duchene play more games than you have. Wild fans were hyper aware of Duchene and Mackinnon when they used to come in and terrify us with their speed and skill. Then they both, but particularly Duchene, had a couple of years where he was not quite a non entity, but certainly not anything like he was earlier on in his career. We would play games against the Avs and I could barely recall a thing that Duchene did.

Maybe Roy just freaked Duchene out. He was kind of a nutjob. Or it could be that Duchene is just turning it on in a contract year.

Duchene has consistency issues and we all know that.
I think what teams are banking on if they trade for him is if he could have his good stretch during the playoffs. Imo when he’s on I think he’s pretty damn near a top 10 forward in the league. He dominates a game like only a few others can. The problem is that when he’s not he’s more of an average first line complementary guy, which isn’t bad but not something you would want from your 1st line center and can leave you frustrated

 

[Hunter368]

Although Winnipeg would be a great fit too

Signed? Yes

Rental? No thx

 

[CamPopplestone]

Maybe Penguins? I'm not familiar with their prospect pool. But maybe a 1st, Jarry, and Hagelin? Perhaps Pens can take Condon too to add value, they can bury him next year.

The Sens can flip Hagelin for another pick, and get a goalie in Jarry to try to see if he can become a starter

Edit: forgot they moved Hagelin

 

[CrosbyMalkin]

I think it's pretty clear this guy is going to be dealt as a rental, so the talk of "not being able to sign him" is moot. This guy has the same agent as Tavares and has been pretty open about that process being intriguing to him. Now that he is a few months away from Free Agency I think the idea of a sign and trade is a pipe dream.

Bidding likely starts at a 1st round pick, your teams 3rd/4th best prospect and a low level roster player on an expiring contract. Anything more than that would be a bonus, anything less than that would be an atrocity on Dorion's behalf.

If that is the price I would be all in as a Pens fan. 1st, Brassard who they could trade for a 1st, and our 3rd best prospect? Someone like Bellerive, Almeida, etc.

He would be a rental and I usually hate those type of deals but a 3rd line of Pearson-Duchene-Kessel would instantly make the Pens the clear favorites.

Guentzel-Crosby-Rust
Simon-Malkin-Hornqvist
Pearson-Duchene-Kessel
Aston-Reese-Cullen-Sheahan

Dumoulin-Letang
Maatta-Schultz
Pettersson-Johnson
Riikola-Rhuwedel

Murray
DeSmith

 

[KnuckChuckinTkachuk]

Maybe Penguins? I'm not familiar with their prospect pool. But maybe a 1st, Jarry, and Hagelin? Perhaps Pens can take Condon too to add value, they can bury him next year.

The Sens can flip Hagelin for another pick, and get a goalie in Jarry to try to see if he can become a starter.

1st is likely a low first
Sens don't really need to gamble on Jarry
and Hagelin plays for the LA Kings now and is our Boedker equivalent so no thank you.

That's literally a worst package then what we got back for Brassard. Easy pass.

 

[Theo Von]

having himself a phenomenal start to 2019.

Stats since the new year:

14 games.
11 goals.
5 assists.
16 points.
43 shots on goal.
+4.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I think the Islanders would make sense ;not hearing much noise from them though.

 

[boredmale]

I think the Islanders would make sense ;not hearing much noise from them though.

As a UFA he should be their #1 target as a playoff rental though I don't think it makes sense to trade the farm for a guy who most likely will leave in July