Speculation: Where do TJ Brodie and Sami Vatanen land?

[crackdown44]

Would love NJ to bring in Brodie, they are desperate for help on the left side and have the cap space to pay him whatever he wants. We need veterans who can sponge up minutes, especially after trading Greene. Would help ease in Ty Smith and help shelter Butcher/make him expendable.

It was also rumored that Shero was kicking tires on Brodie last summer before the Subban trade went through. Interesting to think about how differently things could have gone.

The question is if he wants to chase a Cup, because NJ can't offer him that right now.

Boston needs an LD to ease Chara's minutes and replace Krug. No fit for Vatanen. Brodie is the right handedness but maybe not the right style. A steadier simpler partner for McAvoy might work better.

xxxx - McAvoy
Grezylcyk - Carlo
Chara - Clifton

Brodie is a lot better on the right side even though he’s left handed

 

[crackdown44]

Also I hope we keep Brodie in Calgary

 

[Meeqs]

Brodie is the type of player I could see Colorado offering a big money short term deal to. Like hey here is a boat load of money on a 1 or 2 year deal, come win a cup and they get another pay day when the flat cap is behind you.

Out of all of the Dmen he is the one I think is most fascinating.

Vatanen sucks, so he will probably be scraping the bottom of the barrel. Teams just wont commit the money to someone with his injury concerns in a market filled with better options

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Why? So they can get worse?

Toronto needs bigger cheaper bottom pairing defensemen which is why I don’t believe Brodie or Vatanen would be useful to Toronto at a higher cap hit. One of Dermott, Sandin or Liljegren need to step up in the 20-21 season.

The leafs are woefully sofT in their own zone as well, unless the leafs are ok with Marincin and Rosen as the bottom pair defensemen.

 

[Go Wings]

Brodie is eithee going to re-sign in Calgary or going to a sunbelt team. His wife has MS and has a hard time with the cold weather. They do love it in Calgary though.

As much as I would love him in Detroit I highly doubt he comes here and definitely wont go to TO. He was a Wings and Yzerman fan growing up.

 

[Bond]

Yeah, Calgary or some place warm is my guess as well.

 

[Chayos]

Toronto needs bigger cheaper bottom pairing defensemen which is why I don’t believe Brodie or Vatanen would be useful to Toronto at a higher cap hit. One of Dermott, Sandin or Liljegren need to step up in the 20-21 season.

The leafs are woefully sofT in their own zone as well, unless the leafs are ok with Marincin and Rosen as the bottom pair defensemen.

Sandin and Liljegren make the money Tor can afford as well, so internal growth is the right answer with their top end cap hits right now. Toronto fans are to use to bidding on every UFA out there. If I was their GM I would move out Marner or Nylander for a younger cheaper top end RD and good forward prospects or picks to round out their cap a little better.

 

[CraigsList]

Maybe it's an unpopular opinion, but Brodie would likely do really well in Toronto. He's not an RHD, but he is an RD that would mesh well with either Rielly or Muzzin.

 

[Black Kevin]

Vatanen - Panthers/VGK/Jets - $4.1M x 3 years

 

[Papi 4 Hart]

Toronto is not a destination for Brodie or Vatanen.

The Leafs should be looking for bigger veteran defenseman such as Byfuglien, Borowiecki or Gudas.

I'd take Brodie and Vatanen over any of those 3. Is Byfuglien even gonna play a game ever again? Chances are he weights 300lbs right now and is fishing up north.

 

[DJJones]

Brodie is fine on his left side too. He dragged Calgary to the playoffs with Engelland on the left side with a Norris worthy type year.

It was Hamonic he sucked with. He just happened to be on the left side with Hamonic.

Hoping we sign him though. Losing him and Gio slowing down is just too much for the young guys to handle all at once.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Would love NJ to bring in Brodie, they are desperate for help on the left side and have the cap space to pay him whatever he wants. We need veterans who can sponge up minutes, especially after trading Greene. Would help ease in Ty Smith and help shelter Butcher/make him expendable.

It was also rumored that Shero was kicking tires on Brodie last summer before the Subban trade went through. Interesting to think about how differently things could have gone.

The question is if he wants to chase a Cup, because NJ can't offer him that right now.

Isnt Brodie a right defenseman who played left in Calgary? Also I think Brodie struggles defensively

Maybe I am misremembering.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Sandin and Liljegren make the money Tor can afford as well, so internal growth is the right answer with their top end cap hits right now. Toronto fans are to use to bidding on every UFA out there. If I was their GM I would move out Marner or Nylander for a younger cheaper top end RD and good forward prospects or picks to round out their cap a little better.

I agree, I would move Nylander for a RD instead of signing one off the free agent market.

 

[spockBokk]

I have a sneaking suspicion that Vatanen sticks around in CAR. How they fit him in cap-wise, I have no idea.

 

[HighLifeMan]

Isnt Brodie a right defenseman who played left in Calgary? Also I think Brodie struggles defensively

Maybe I am misremembering.

He's a LHD that plays better on the right side. He has arguably the best backhand transition pass in the game.

And no, he's not poor defensively, in fact he is well above average. He got a horrible rep for having a tough stretch from 16-18' when having to drag around the corpse of Denis Wideman for a season, and then having terrible chemistry with Hamonic the following year.

He's a quality #3 that can eat a ton of minutes.

 

[howkie]

as a Jet, rather go for Brodie over vats, but both would be needed badly

 

[gabeliscious]

i can see dubas in on that action.

Rielly. Brodie
Muzzin. Vatanen
Sandin holl
Lily

Package dermott with johnsson or kerfoot

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Brodie will stay in Calgary. I’m not sure why he would leave.

 

[Unsustainable]

Rumor mill is that Carolina wants to hold onto Sami.

We are probably looking to shed TVR, Gardiner and possibly Fluery.

We could possibly looking at:

Slavin - Hamilton
Skjei - Pesce
Fluery/Bean - Sami

 

[AustonMarner]

Gudas would be a nice bottom pair addition

Unfortunately, he'll command much more than bottom pair contract

 

[CartographerNo611]

Vatanen has Rutherford written all over him.

 

[Mobiandi]

I see, still not sure why he'd go Ottawa over Toronto right now though.

He put Toronto on his NTC after Kadri blocked the trade with his own NTC

 

[Bounces R Way]

Don't really see Brodie as the type to go chasing a big payday. Would be happy to see him back with a 4 or 5 year deal ~5.5AAV.

He would be a great partner for Reilly but I don't think he wants the Toronto media spotlight on him. If he goes anywhere else I imagine it'll be a retirement contract in a better climate for his wife to deal with her MS. Detroit might be a possibility I guess as he has a lot of family in the area.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Brodie resigns with Calgary or goes south for warmer weather. His wife has MS and he has a 1 ywar old daughter. They are more important than the caliber of the team he plays on.

 

[Nanuuk]

TJ pretty much grew up as a Flame. He's a 10 year man, smooth and elite skater, plays left or right D, and a tape to tape passer. He's not overly physical but doesn't shy away from rougher play. He came in as a single guy and is now married with a 1 year old. His wife has MS and TJ is involved in a number of community organizations. I think he'd like to stay here and be a Flame for life. But in the end he has to do what he thinks is right for his family. And the Flames have to manage to a cap. I have a hunch he will re-sign in Calgary to a team friendly deal ~5M X 5 and Calgary will say goodbye to Hamonic, Gustaffson and Forbort. They will possibly trade one of Hanifin or Kylington and go with a younger D crew with the exceptions of Giordano and Brodie and Stone who they will re-sign to the league minimum.

Giordano/Brodie
Hanifin/Andersson
Valimaki/Yelesin

Stone