When will they retire Jagr's number?

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  1. K Fleur Better Days

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    People should be perma-banned for citing the Pens Facebook comments for anything other than to laugh at them
     
  2. Ugene Malkin Underdog

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    Here's my compromise....,

    Put up a statue somewhere because I feel he's earn that, but you'll never convince me he's earned his 68 up in the rafters when his tenure with the Pens is only 1/3 his career.

    Please.... Don't ever say Jagr saved the team. If he did, there's no reason for Mario to come back.

    Keep the Jersey hanging to those who bleed their entire careers here. There's no need to flood the ceiling with guys who didn't. Unfortunately Fleury would have to be left off.

    To extend on the statue bit: The sidewalk across the street where the Igloo once stood is a perfect place to erect statues of all the old greats from the past. Guys Like Jagr, Kehoe, Pronovost, Stackhouse, Carlyle, Barrasso, Larouche and more. Lined up along both Center Ave. and Washington place. I'd keep the PPG arena side to people who helped that arena. That's Mario, obviously, Crosby, Malkin, Letang and Fleury, and if Murray has a long tenure here, him as well. Plus a likeness of the Igloo across the street.

    They also could have made the igloo into a museum to the heritage of music and hockey in Pittsburgh, or have a mirror of the building created in it's honor since it's torn down. A pittsburgh music/hockey museum. The money it would create for the city with the added tourism would be huge considering it would be targeting two things everyone loves. Pittsburgh just is not the same without that dome.
     
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  4. BlindWillyMcHurt ti kallisti

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    I know I sound like I probably just have a huge bias against the guy but I just don't see the case for Fleury. At all. I'm not even limiting potential inclusion to "must have been a Pen for life" either.
     
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    This team has the correct numbers retired right now and in 20 years only two more should be added. 87 and 71 obviously.

    Everybody else can f*** off. Especially Fleury.
     
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  6. Honour Over Glory North Division is AHL Caliber

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    Is that Jagr crusader wanker gone finally?
     
  7. Honour Over Glory North Division is AHL Caliber

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    Yeah, I'm with this.

    Although, I don't see Murray being a long term Penguin at all, but the rest, yeah mate.
     
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    Agreed. Screw Jagr.
     
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    One sat out in the Finals game 7 with a minor leg injury.

    One came back from cancer/horrible back injurie(s) to lead the team to the Cup.

    What are we judging leadership on?
     
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    Crosby didn't want to be a liability
     
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    Just looking at Jagr's profile on eliteprospects.

    I have zero recollection of him playing for New Jersey. None.
     
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    Jersey will do that to a guy...
     
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    Jagr can F off. I loved him as a Penguin but he is the player that forced a trade and was dying alive to play for the Pens. If Crosby and Malkin retire as Penguins I would retire both those numbers. In my mind they are the best of their generation and I am including OV. I still am glad we got Malkin instead. All take the generational Center over the winger any day. Malkin in those Cup years was just as good as Crosby. Definitely the most underrated player in a long time and maybe ever.

    Jagr is one of the top 10 players all time but the way he left makes me say no to retiring his number.
     
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    Well, if Jags had stayed either the team would have actually folded from having to pay his salary, or the franchise would have ended up being the bad guys by trading him because they had to.
     
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    How and why is that even over decades of time, ownership changes, multiple GMs, a dozen coaches, and a roster that is several times turned over do some teams just stagnate with one identity?
     
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  16. Hungamania Ceci what I did?

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    So you love him and top 10-yet he can f off.

    Are you drunk?
     
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    Jagr's talent is undeniable. I was too young to appreciate Mario in his heyday, so as far as my experience goes, I've never seen anyone dominate like Jagr did at his best.

    Don't know if you retire his number though. I don't think his departure was all his fault considering the team's financial woes, but still. Didn't exactly leave on great terms.

    If you're retiring numbers based on the player's career with the team, individual accolades and gaudy numbers are enough to get Jagr's jersey into the rafters. But I think you've gotta go beyond those merits and take into account team success as well.
     
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    I loved him as a Penguin. What don't you understand about that. I thank him for the time he was a Penguin because for the vast majority of that time he was a great teammate and player during that time and helped us win 2 Cups and he had 5 scoring titles. But I don't have to be drunk to hate him for the way he left. I could of forgave him if he eventually came back but he stayed a trader in my eyes. I could care a less if his number is retired. He didn't care to be a Penguin so why should we care to honor him.
     
  19. EightyOne My posts are jokes. And hockey is just a game.

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    Retiring numbers is silly outside of very special circumstances.

    I am fine if Jagr gets a parking lot section named after him.
     
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    Crosby is the next number retired. I think Malkin deserves it also if he finishes his career with the Pens. Malkin was just as important and Crosby in those Cups and we don't win without him. Also I still believe he is the second best player of his generation and think he was more help in winning those Cups than if we had OV instead. The 2 Center model is much better. That 2009 Cup Malkin put up those insane numbers with Fedotenko and Talbot. Probably best player in the world at that time.
     
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    87, 71, 58, 29 in that order.

    I would bet a heavy sum that is how it will play out.
     
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    Retire 87, retire 71, maybe retire 68. That's it.
     
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    Yep. Letang likely gets retired if he finishes his career here tho.
     
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    Letang is pretty much a lock.

    87, 71 and 58 are locks to me.

    29, most likely.
     
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    He needed to be as close to Atlantic City as he could for reasons...
     
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