When Will the Leafs be considered Polished/Experienced

A1LeafNation

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We played Washington in the playoffs but lost to a more experienced team.

We played Boston in the playoffs but lost to a more experienced team.

Last night Leafs got beat by a more polished Pittsburgh team.

Can we take the next step already...when does it happen?
 

IPS

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This year.

If we lose in the playoffs, no more stupid excuses. Honest to god we should have gotten past Boston last year. IDGAF what anyone says, their team was an overachieving pretender that was nowhere near as good as their point total indicated.
 

Moncherry

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We played Washington in the playoffs but lost to a more experienced team.

We played Boston in the playoffs but lost to a more experienced team.

Last night Leafs got beat by a more polished Pittsburgh team.

Can we take the next step already...when does it happen?

Why are you questioning the team's ability to take the next step because they lost a game in October? Where was this thread when they beat the defending champions?
 

A1LeafNation

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Why are you questioning the team's ability to take the next step because they lost a game in October? Where was this thread when they beat the defending champions?

I just want to know when I will stop hearing they get beat by more experience/polished teams.
 

Ratboy

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This year.

If we lose in the playoffs, no more stupid excuses. Honest to god we should have gotten past Boston last year. IDGAF what anyone says, their team was an overachieving pretender that was nowhere near as good as their point total indicated.
Yeah . If we didn't lose Kadri we win. If Gardiner has a working brain .. we win.
 

Ratboy

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I just want to know when I will stop hearing they get beat by more experience/polished teams.
I think it'll take a couple years of successful playoff rounds. Starting with at least 1 this year and building on it next year. It takes time.
 

WTFMAN99

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This year.

If we lose in the playoffs, no more stupid excuses. Honest to god we should have gotten past Boston last year. IDGAF what anyone says, their team was an overachieving pretender that was nowhere near as good as their point total indicated.

Yeah . If we didn't lose Kadri we win. If Gardiner has a working brain .. we win.

I think both of you guys basically said what I was thinking anyway with this.

The system we're using so far seems to be better aside from the 1st couple of games where we were adjusting. I do think we need to actually upgrade what we have on the blueline but we have all year to do it.
 

Suntouchable13

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We are led by guys who this is only their 3rd season. Top 2 lines, only 2 vets Marleau and JT. Look at the blue line: Dermott, Zaitzev, Ozhiganov. 3 out of the 6 have only 201 NHL games combined between them. It'll take time. A couple of deep playoff runs will help.
 

lifelonghockeyfan

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When I see how many Leaf haters think the Leafs have the absolute worse Dman in the NHL, those folks won't be happy till the Leafs defence is manned again by Horton, Stanley, Baun, Brewer and Hillman.
 

hockeyes

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It's easy to write a team or player off when they haven't won anything (Ovi/WSH until last year) but at the end of the day, you just hope your team is moving forward and not backwards, so far the Leafs are going the right direction.
 

IPS

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I assume when all of the Leafs best players are legal to drink in the USA?
Historically, elite youngsters do fantastic in their 3rd year. Chicago's youngsters won a cup and Pittsburgh's went to the cup one year, won it the next. One wouldn't be wrong to call mulligan on last year's series loss but I really don't think we can use the experience argument if we lose early in the playoffs again.
 

NightTrain1

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Well, we are on the cusp right now.

It's just a matter of getting all the lines to gel and play complete games, not sporadic and in spurts. Great teams mostly dominate and give back little while we are still giving far far too much. We are probably key role players away from going the distance honestly and maybe 1 more years experience deeper in the playoffs.
 

Buds17

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Maybe when they go into (a) playoff series as the team projected/expected to win and follow through on that? I understand that might be subjective. I figured on a 6-2 record at this point, but thought they'd beat Ottawa and lose to Washington. Banking points and qualifying for the playoffs aside, not much else is really won or lost this early in the season. Some of the team's best players are still among its youngest/inexperienced, for all of the ups and downs associated with that.
 

Discordia

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When they know how to play defense and not run around like some headless chickens the moment the puck goes into their zone and there is any kind of forecheck.
 

Apotheosis

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This year is when I start calling for Babcock's firing if he's another first round exit. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for the Washington series and a slight nudge for the Boston series. But three first round exits in a row compounded by the multitude of first round exits before his Leafs tenure? Can't defend that.
 
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BoredBrandonPridham

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This year is when I start calling for Babcock's firing if he's another first round exit. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for the Washington series and a slight nudge for the Boston series. But three first round exits in a row compounded by the multitude of first round exits before his Leafs tenure? Can't defend that.

Babcock certainly can defend himself against the multitude of first round exits before his Leafs tenure. And certainly against the ones where over half the team are rookies and sophomores.
 

Mess

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Don't you have to win a playoff round first before you win the Cup?.

Playoff experience is gained by going deep in the playoffs not bowing out in round #1 to be considered playoff hardened and experienced.
 

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