Whats wrong with Nikolaj Ehlers?

[wabagee]

If he keeps skating and drawing penalties like he does, It’s okay by me.

 

[raymond23]

Lovejoy looks like a soccer dad

 

[RRenegade]

You do realize has has some of the best possessions stats on the team right?

I am not aware of his possession stats, and I am doubtful of your statement.
I don't think the whole team is playing up to their potential & their possession stats in general would all be suffering.

I am going by the eye test as I watch most Jets games.

 

[DashingDane]

I am not aware of his possession stats, and I am doubtful of your statement.
I don't think the whole team is playing up to their potential & their possession stats in general would all be suffering.

I am going by the eye test as I watch most Jets games.

I'd definitely not argue against him needing to be better! I think the eye test plays tricks on us when it comes to players that carry the puck a lot. Ehlers is a prime example of that. He not only has the puck a lot but plays with a lot of risk. I think it's human nature to remember all the mistakes and thus think he didn't do well. Possession stats has him as the 2nd best Jet on 5v5. Stats pulled from natural stat trick.

 

[RRenegade]

I'd definitely not argue against him needing to be better! I think the eye test plays tricks on us when it comes to players that carry the puck a lot. Ehlers is a prime example of that. He not only has the puck a lot but plays with a lot of risk. I think it's human nature to remember all the mistakes and thus think he didn't do well. Possession stats has him as the 2nd best Jet on 5v5. Stats pulled from natural stat trick.

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You sir are correct, he does have decent Corsi numbers. I still don't think that he is playing up to his potential.
Also, numbers can be misleading Myers @50.63 has seemingly had a lot of trouble in his own end this year.

 

[CornerStone61]

He's on my fantasy team.

Sorry.

 

[DashingDane]

You sir are correct, he does have decent Corsi numbers. I still don't think that he is playing up to his potential.
Also, numbers can be misleading Myers @50.63 has seemingly had a lot of trouble in his own end this year.

Agree on all fronts!

 

[Inflict]

Ehlers is in a bit of a slump but it's not like he's playing bad. He's more of a playmaker and he has set up his teammates with some beautiful passes but not many have been able to finish recently. I'm not worried at this point as he is generating a lot of offense, drawing penalties and has looked very good on the 1st line. Probably the best player on that line right now at 5 on 5.

 

[MardyBum]

Again, the Jets have the second worst (or were in the last day or so) 5v5 shooting % in the league, and we've been pretty terrible overall as a team, just like we were last year to start the season.

Jacob Trouba is tied with Scheifele for the lead in non-pp scoring for the Jets.

No one is scoring 5v5 for the Jets, and most of our PP scoring comes from PP1.

 

[sr edler]

Ehlers/Laine also struggled in last years playoffs. Had they been on, WPG would have played WSH.

 

[57special]

I'd definitely not argue against him needing to be better! I think the eye test plays tricks on us when it comes to players that carry the puck a lot. Ehlers is a prime example of that. He not only has the puck a lot but plays with a lot of risk. I think it's human nature to remember all the mistakes and thus think he didn't do well. Possession stats has him as the 2nd best Jet on 5v5. Stats pulled from natural stat trick.

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OK, so Wheeler, Scheifele, and Laine suck, not Ehlers?

 

[Romang67]

Sub 5% on-ice sh%. Both 5v5 and on the PP. The team as a whole is rocking a ~6% on-ice sh% 5v5. The puck luck 5v5 has simply not been there this season.

Both will correct themselves as the season progresses.

 

[Metroid]

Incoming hattrick next game.

 

[DashingDane]

OK, so Wheeler, Scheifele, and Laine suck, not Ehlers?

Wait what...? Where did I say that

If you mean that Ehlers has been better at possession, then yes, that’s what those stats would suggest... also not stats I’ve personally tracked. not sure what your point is...

 

[57special]

Wait what...? Where did I say that

If you mean that Ehlers has been better at possession, then yes, that’s what those stats would suggest... also not stats I’ve personally tracked. not sure what your point is...

My point is that a lazy person's argument (I don't know who it was who put up the table I referenced)is to put up a stat as if it somehow proves something conclusive about a player. I'm not even confident that the stats are tracked properly. Giveaways, takeaways, and hits, are a joke.

 

[DashingDane]

My point is that a lazy person's argument (I don't know who it was who put up the table I referenced)is to put up a stat as if it somehow proves something conclusive about a player. I'm not even confident that the stats are tracked properly. Giveaways, takeaways, and hits, are a joke.

May be look at context next time... I put those stats up to show Ehlers was doing ok in possession metrics which was the conversation talking place. That table doesn't even have giveaways, takeaways, hits ect. It shows Corsi events and %. All that means is he is doing better at keeping possession, not that he is better than y,x or z player in general.

 

[drewjenks]

Laine and Ehlers are no-talent bums now. The Jets ruin all of their good players.

To be fair....Laine has never been above average at anything but shooting.
So if he doesn't shoot well he doesn't look good.

 

[Newsworthy]

The first name. It should be Nikola,Nikolas or Nikolai.

The "J" always throws me off.

 

[jetsforever]

OK, so Wheeler, Scheifele, and Laine suck, not Ehlers?

In the past several games, best to worst of that group is probably Scheifele, Ehlers, Laine, Wheeler (pretty sure this will change though)

 

[Ainec]

Jim Benning passed on him for a reason

 

[FinlandPanther]

To be fair....Laine has never been above average at anything but shooting.
So if he doesn't shoot well he doesn't look good.

Wonder what team you cheer for lol. Matthews doesn’t look good when someone touches him either so keep quiet.

 

[PhilJets]

Ehlers/Laine also struggled in last years playoffs. Had they been on, WPG would have played WSH.

Laine struggled?

Did you see the Jets scoring leaders. He is 19 years and playing his 1st playoff year. He wasn't spectacular overall but he didn't struggle. He made a lot of key plays in both Wilds and Preds series.

Ehlers he will get around. Good for 50 to 70 points a year.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Ehlers is being PDO'd.

He'll bounce back.

 

[Boy Hedican]

He’s not playing with Timo!

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

Virtanen:
GP G A P +/- PIM

14

5

2

7

1

10

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Ehlers:
GP G A P +/- PIM

12

1

3

4

-7

7

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Add in Nylander with zeroes across the board this year.....

Looks like Jimbo made the right choice after all!

Well play played good sir.