what's up with the non-capacity crowd announced as a sellout?

[severian]

i don't get it.

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[Classic Devil]

Tickets sold but not used?

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

i don't get it.

I believe they lowered the capacity of the arena. I think they used to count goal bar seats(?) but they no longer count certain seats.

I think TG alluded to it.

 

[sbresistor]

you need to count the people using the bathroom at any given time

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

Tickets sold but not used?

Here's something I found:

ATTENDANCE: 16,592. The Devils announced that as a sellout, but capacity used to be 17,625.

- See more at: http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/fireice/#sthash.9aBjieZb.dpuf

Not sure if this is TG being snarky or if they changed capacity.

 

[downtown56]

Probably not counting the suite seats, restaurant ledge seats, those table seats around the goal bar and lower and upper concourse

 

[severian]

I believe they lowered the capacity of the arena. I think they used to count goal bar seats(?) but they no longer count certain seats.

I think TG alluded to it.

that makes sense but then what is capacity? the isles game had a slightly higher number than this game and that wasn't announced as a sellout.

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

that makes sense but then what is capacity? the isles game had a slightly higher number than this game and that wasn't announced as a sellout.

I don't know honestly. Maybe this is something new? Again it's not confirmed just going off of what TG said. But the arena was certainly a sell-out tonight. Everything was packed in the bowl (except the blacks but there were a ton of people eating their free food). The concourses were packed. It was very much a sell-out.

So they must have either changed capacity or about 1100 people snuck in.

 

[severian]

I don't know honestly. Maybe this is something new? Again it's not confirmed just going off of what TG said. But the arena was certainly a sell-out tonight. Everything was packed in the bowl (except the blacks but there were a ton of people eating their free food). The concourses were packed. It was very much a sell-out.

So they must have either changed capacity or about 1100 people snuck in.

the clubs looked half empty on tv.

 

[Devils Trap]

I don't know honestly. Maybe this is something new? Again it's not confirmed just going off of what TG said. But the arena was certainly a sell-out tonight. Everything was packed in the bowl (except the blacks but there were a ton of people eating their free food). The concourses were packed. It was very much a sell-out.

So they must have either changed capacity or about 1100 people snuck in.

No wonder we were broke. 1100 people get in for free

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

Probably not counting the suite seats, restaurant ledge seats, those table seats around the goal bar and lower and upper concourse

Goal bar makes sense since it's not on any seating map. It's 6 sections, 3 rows a section, with (I think) 24 seats a row.

Still missing quite a few seats and I doubt they stopped counting suites.

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

No wonder we were broke. 1100 people get in for free

For people who don't know (this might get deleted and sorry if it's not appropriate):

If you go in through the Devils Den and stand in line at the box office - if you make a right through that little hallway before you go in, it's a clear path into the arena.

No one asks for your ticket. No one is standing by the door. I saw about a dozen people walk right in.

So maybe 1100 people didn't sneak in but people certainly do.

 

[Devils Trap]

For people who don't know (this might get deleted and sorry if it's not appropriate):

If you go in through the Devils Den and stand in line at the box office - if you make a right through that little hallway before you go in, it's a clear path into the arena.

No one asks for your ticket. No one is standing by the door. I saw about a dozen people walk right in.

So maybe 1100 people didn't sneak in but people certainly do.

I mean you cant go to your seat in most cases without a ticket. The ushers normally ask for it

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

I mean you cant go to your seat in most cases without a ticket. The ushers normally ask for it

Balconies and upper I never get stopped. I guess it depends on the usher.

 

[glenwo2]

I mean you cant go to your seat in most cases without a ticket. The ushers normally ask for it

I'm sure there are now lurking Devils fans that are going "aww...drat!".

 

[Emperoreddy]

Dolan Dust. The answer is Dolan dust. This is what rich people do lol

 

[glenwo2]

Dolan Dust. The answer is Dolan dust. This is what rich people do lol

I read that as Gold Dust at first....

 

[severian]

Probably not counting the suite seats, restaurant ledge seats, those table seats around the goal bar and lower and upper concourse

I'd be curious to know what the official sellout number is then. I mean there have been very few games where all those seats have been sold yet the Devils still announced 17625.

 

[apice3*]

the clubs looked half empty on tv.

Club seats are poorly designed for TV. Most people stand inside the bar area and not in their seats.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Club seats are poorly designed for TV. Most people stand inside the bar area and not in their seats.

Exactly this. We aren't the only team with this problem either. I know some other arenas use seat fillers from the upper bowls. No real good solution to have those seats filled without taking room from the bars away.

 

[KohoDonuts88]

Were the revenue sharing rules changed? Used to be Devils and Isles weren't eligible because of the market. If so, lower capacity = better chance to reach capacity targets to qualify for $$?

Totally speculating, but that would be genius if they could get away with it.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

you know we won a game when threads like these pop up.

 

[NJDevs26]

It's a legitimate question though, since apparently capacity is over 1000 seats lower. Not only that, but the listed number was actually a tad HIGHER for the Isles game and that wasn't called a sellout.

 

[coolstorybro]

you know we won a game when threads like these pop up.

exactly. forget 92% capacity rate past 2 years. focus on the negative because we aren't playing in THE WORLDS GREATEST ARENA (with tickets purchased by nearly every fortune 500 company)

NO FANS!

 

[coolstorybro]

It's a legitimate question though, since apparently capacity is over 1000 seats lower. Not only that, but the listed number was actually a tad HIGHER for the Isles game and that wasn't called a sellout.

restructuring by new owners would be my guess.