In an effort to stop clogging the main thread, continue your discussion about Sweden here.
No, no fans in september anyways. The SEL will begin its season 19/9.Seeing fans at KHL games already. Is Sweden having fans in their rinks fir SEL games?
What I said yes.*crickets*
No fans in SHL or HA, or same rules as everywhere at least (50).
It is silent because Sweden proves the majority of posters here are wrong regarding the severity of covid.
Sweden is averaging less than a death per day attributed to covid now. Meanwhile Canada (who has apparently done a great job) is talking about a 2nd wave shutdown.
Anyone remember the media hit pieces on Sweden? Just another conspiracy I guess.
Sweden is now proving Hf-boards wrong? Ok. I thought I was the lonewolf critizing them? The rest of the Swede-herd here does the Markys Näslund zombie goal celebration indeed , everytime there is post downplaying Covid like yours hereIt is silent because Sweden proves the majority of posters here are wrong regarding the severity of covid.
Sweden is averaging less than a death per day attributed to covid now. Meanwhile Canada (who has apparently done a great job) is talking about a 2nd wave shutdown.
Anyone remember the media hit pieces on Sweden? Just another conspiracy I guess.
I will never defend the media, but your expectations are way offAnyone remember the media hit pieces on Sweden?
exactly why people should not have believed them when they fear mongered for 3 straight months about sweden. bigger problem is, people still believe them todayI will never defend the media, but your expectations are way off
The media is a business , it's job is to make money and get more viewers, clicks, reads etc.
Controversy, drama, etc sells.
Good news stories about people saving kittens, or helping the elderly cross the street don't
Guess will find out come fall if their herd immunity strategy worked
I honestly have not followed the discussion that much, so correct me if I am misinterpreting what you are trying to say here. Sweden has like 5 times as many deaths from covid19 than all of our Nordic neighbors combined. Not sure what the fear-mongering is about but this is something acknowledged by the Public Health Agency in Sweden as well, so it's not like they are in denial. Things did not go very well for Sweden until the last months. Being a Swede I am happy it is looking good right now I hope it continues, but it was pretty bad this spring.exactly why people should not have believed them when they fear mongered for 3 straight months about sweden. bigger problem is, people still believe them today
Agreed, the Swedish "strategy" was none existant in the begining. Then after a while its more like "-Lets se what happens" adopt alittle after sometime, then downplay what happened afterwards if it is something troublesome for Sweden, like the many deaths and how wide spread the virus was here.Sweden never had a herd community strategy.
Not sure what this meansSweden never had a herd community strategy.
Thats great! Don't want to be a Debbie downer, yet isn't the end of that graph line for Sweden begining to go upwards again?. Also news like this:
This is good good news!
Sweden did nothing at first (Especially compared to like all other nations in the world..) when the virus came here. I know I was here. Where are you from? Time to be happy about it beeing less deadly now. I think things are going to go back to be pretty normal everywhere soon. The things that is going to be left to discuss is what was done , what was not done, cosequenses etc. I'ts notable that the excuses (like your post Albatros) are coming in as fast as the good news.Sweden did not let the virus run free, simply failed at protecting the most vulnerable among the elderly. One can criticize the failure surely, but still there was an attempt so it's somewhat anachronistic to point to current experiences that are everywhere based on earlier failures of one sort or another. Also Sweden is much better at protecting the nursing homes now and there are hardly any COVID-19 deaths in them.
This is just positive news for every human. See link, very credible source on the subject,
Declining COVID-19 Case Fatality Rates across all ages: analysis of German data - CEBM
This news casts an even bigger shadow on Swedens "strategy" dosent it. If you are going to let the virus run free , now is the time, not then, in mars-april, in the begining, when it was more deadly to everyone obviously..