What player will be massively overrated following his playoff performance?

[ijuka]

Joel Armia comes to mind.

I don't get people saying Danault? He's been terrible.

 

[ijuka]

If not for him, that wouldn't have been a tie to begin with.

Because Habs had half the amount of shots on goal that Vegas had?

Unless you by this mean "if they had played with an empty net instead", which just is a ridiculous argument.

 

[Captain97]

Joel Armia comes to mind.

I don't get people saying Danault? He's been terrible.

Danault has been outstanding, his job isn't to put up points it's to create an offensive black hole.

 

[Bread and Circuses]

I'm not a fan of the Lightning at all and can absolutely agree 100% that anyone that thinks Point is overrated is crazy.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Caufield, Price...

 

[theimmortal1]

I’m a bolts fan and a huge Point fan. The question is about overrated and underrated. It’s not good or bad.

For example Mcd is very overrated but he’s still great. I’d put him #2 in the NHL but he has a clear case for #1. But he’s overrated. People act like he’s Gretzky, he’s not.

Point IMO will be overrated.

His playoff performances make it out that he is generational. He’s not. Probably a HOF and a top tier 1C but not the absolute top tier.

For example Matthews vs Point. Many, given playoff performances would put Point on that tier. I’d put him right below it.

That being said it’s my perception on how people may rate him (say vs Matthews). Yet people here rate him vs Barzal. If that’s the standard then Point is underrated.

 

[Kimota]

The mention of Staal is funny because while he helps as a vet, I don't think anybody will overrate him.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Caufield, Price...

 

[theimmortal1]

Let’s imagine this potential scenario:

Bolts beat Habs for Cup

Point leads in goals and wins CS


Who says no:

TBL: Point, Stamkos, TJo

Toronto: Matthews, Nylander

Stamkos is a hair under PPG playoff career and he’s PPG this year (despite his “playoff choking reputation thats pretty damn good). Point as mentioned has led the playoffs in goals over the last 5 years and is PPG playoffs.

Matthews and Nylander well under PPG in the playoffs. Far under actually.

Toronto just saw the hated Habs go to the Cup Finals and they know they’ve been choking in the playoffs.



IMO both teams say no, but for different reasons. Tampa because they want 3 peat and loyalty with same core. But Toronto really really thinks about it. More than they should IMO

 

[WatchfulElm]

Joel Armia comes to mind.

I don't get people saying Danault? He's been terrible.

Those are the opposing stars that have been facing the Danault line since the start of the season.

Matthews : 7-1-4-5
Marner : 7-0-4-4
Wheeler : 4-0-0-0
Ehlers : 4-0-1-1
Dubois : 4-0-1-1
Stastny : 2-0-0-0
Scheifele : 1-0-0-0
Pacioretty : 3-0-1-1
Stone : 3-0-0-0
Marchesseault : 3-0-1-1

Combined total : 38-1-12-13

I could add Connor 4-1-2-3
Or Karlsson 3-0-2-2
And the only exception, Nylander. But Danault wasn't his main opposing line.

 

[jaysoneil]

Joel Armia comes to mind.

I don't get people saying Danault? He's been terrible.

WHAT?

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Let’s imagine this potential scenario:

Bolts beat Habs for Cup

Point leads in goals and wins CS


Who says no:

TBL: Point, Stamkos, TJo

Toronto: Matthews, Nylander

Stamkos is a hair under PPG playoff career and he’s PPG this year (despite his “playoff choking reputation thats pretty damn good). Point as mentioned has led the playoffs in goals over the last 5 years and is PPG playoffs.

Matthews and Nylander well under PPG in the playoffs. Far under actually.

Toronto just saw the hated Habs go to the Cup Finals and they know they’ve been choking in the playoffs.



IMO both teams say no, but for different reasons. Tampa because they want 3 peat and loyalty with same core. But Toronto really really thinks about it. More than they should IMO

Interesting framing. Stamkos is just "a hair" under PPG with .8, while Matthews at .75 and Marner at .78 are "well under". No that's not even a enough of a descriptor. They are "far under actually." The difference between a "hair under" and "far under" is .02 PPG, apparently.

 

[The National]

Armia is the first that comes to mind, which is good for him he should get a little bit of a raise.

 

[Buck Naked]

I agree with the people mentioning Point. Kuch's impact is incredibly obvious. With him gone Point was a good scorer, not great. Seems like he is a slightly below ppg player on his own, which I wouldn't call a top tier elite 1c. I'd put him in the same tier as Barzal.

 

[Habidelidoo]

Every Habs player

 

[waffledave]

CBJ in 2019... when was the other time for Vasilevsky getting swept?

He might have been thinking 2014 vs the Habs but he wasn't there for that.

 

[CartographerNo611]

Delete

 

[DFF]

Somebody may actually trade for Price now

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Martinez
Armia
Pelech
Goodrow

Pelech has always been a beast. People are just starting to realize it.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Point. He’s an absolute stud but playing with Kuch helps him a ton

So which one is it? Points either a stud or he’s being carried by another player. Maybe Point allows Kuch to play to his full potential as well.

 

[boredmale]

So which one is it? Points either a stud or he’s being carried by another player. Maybe Point allows Kuch to play to his full potential as well.

Probably the best way to look at it is look at his stats without Kucherov. 48 Points in 54 games. While still great, it's nowhere close to his pace of 92 points a couple years ago

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Probably the best way to look at it is look at his stats without Kucherov. 48 Points in 54 games. While still great, it's nowhere close to his pace of 92 points a couple years ago

Who would of guessed that two top end players playing with each other benefits both? I learn something new everyday.

 

[viper0220]

Corey Perry who will find a sucker for another contract

1 year at $1-$1.5 million, is not the end of the f***ing world.

 

[viper0220]

Let’s imagine this potential scenario:

Bolts beat Habs for Cup

Point leads in goals and wins CS


Who says no:

TBL: Point, Stamkos, TJo

Toronto: Matthews, Nylander

Stamkos is a hair under PPG playoff career and he’s PPG this year (despite his “playoff choking reputation thats pretty damn good). Point as mentioned has led the playoffs in goals over the last 5 years and is PPG playoffs.

Matthews and Nylander well under PPG in the playoffs. Far under actually.

Toronto just saw the hated Habs go to the Cup Finals and they know they’ve been choking in the playoffs.



IMO both teams say no, but for different reasons. Tampa because they want 3 peat and loyalty with same core. But Toronto really really thinks about it. More than they should IMO

I'd rather have the players that know how to win.

 

[boredmale]

Who would of guessed that two top end players playing with each other benefits both? I learn something new everyday.

I am just pointing out many people will view Point as the 1.16 PPG player when he is more of a 0.89 PPG player

And that's not to discount how good a season Point had this year, but it gives us a better read on how good a player he is.