What moves would you make this summer?

[SaveHextall]

I'm going to assume that we dont hit on Panarin, Karlsson or Duchene (recently read a quote where he seemed really happy in CMB and I dont wanna pay him what he will get)

Here's what I'd do...let me know what you think....

- Buy out A-Mac
(dont let AV have the option to play him and piss the fans off immediately)

- Trade Voracek for a legit 2C
(There are none out there on the market. When I evaluate players, I look at them an determine if they're good enough to be in the lineup of a Cup winning team. I dont see anybody winning a Cup with Nelson or Hayes at 2C )

- Sign one of Zuccarello/Hagelin
(This could happen now that AV is here. Zucc is a helluva a leader and is a winning player. I think he'd help us more than most people may think. If we dont get him, I can see Hagelin coming here on a chaep deal to add speed and PK help)

- Sign one of Eberle/Skinner
(This helps replace Voracek in the Top 6)

- Trade our 1st and a good prospect (preferably Allison. Farabee, Frost and Ratcliffe off the table) for a Top pairing d-man

- Re-sign Talbot
(Might as well. Not a good market at all for UFA goalies and he played well under AV)

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[catbellysqueezer]

Trade everyone that is bad for everyone that is good

 

[Stizzle]

The salary cap is a hoax.

 

[TheKingPin]

I think you need to give examples of that 2C you want that you’ll get for Jake. I don’t see it. If we could turn Jakes cap plus a bit more into skinner, zucc, a legit 2C I would be in but obviously that seems very unlikely.

 

[Curufinwe]

The right ones.

 

[Branko]

Fletch doesn't believe in buy outs. He said so at the end of the year press conference. Bury Andy in Lehigh and then escort him out of town at the end of the season.

You're going to take heat for suggesting trading Jake, but I'd agree with you if the right deal is there. I just can't think of a team that would just be willing to give up a 2C for a winger without the Flyers taking a cap dump back. No more cap dumps.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Holy ****, another one

 

[Curufinwe]

Fletch doesn't believe in buy outs. He said so at the end of the year press conference. Bury Andy in Lehigh and then escort him out of town at the end of the season.

He also said he had bought out players in the past.

Like Vanek in 2016 after he scored 41 points in 78 games.

Thomas Vanek - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[deadhead]

Fletch doesn't believe in buy outs. He said so at the end of the year press conference. Bury Andy in Lehigh and then escort him out of town at the end of the season.

You're going to take heat for suggesting trading Jake, but I'd agree with you if the right deal is there. I just can't think of a team that would just be willing to give up a 2C for a winger without the Flyers taking a cap dump back. No more cap dumps.

We have a lot of short-term cap room, that's exactly when you take cap dumps to sweeten a deal.
We didn't play Lehtera b/c of his salary, but because of lack of depth in the organization, he was replaced by Varone.

 

[Rebels57]

I'm going to assume that we dont hit on Panarin, Karlsson or Duchene (recently read a quote where he seemed really happy in CMB and I dont wanna pay him what he will get)

Here's what I'd do...let me know what you think....

- Buy out A-Mac
(dont let AV have the option to play him and piss the fans off immediately)

- Trade Voracek for a legit 2C
(There are none out there on the market. When I evaluate players, I look at them an determine if they're good enough to be in the lineup of a Cup winning team. I dont see anybody winning a Cup with Nelson or Hayes at 2C )

- Sign one of Zuccarello/Hagelin
(This could happen now that AV is here. Zucc is a helluva a leader and is a winning player. I think he'd help us more than most people may think. If we dont get him, I can see Hagelin coming here on a chaep deal to add speed and PK help)

- Sign one of Eberle/Skinner
(This helps replace Voracek in the Top 6)

- Trade our 1st and a good prospect (preferably Allison. Farabee, Frost and Ratcliffe off the table) for a Top pairing d-man

- Re-sign Talbot
(Might as well. Not a good market at all for UFA goalies and he played well under AV)

Definitely want us to buy-out AMac.

So you want to add a 2C and two middle 6 forwards? That's actually overkill. The top 9 really only has 2 holes at the moment, and Frost or Farabee may be able to fill one of them as early as 19-20. I'd be fine with adding 2 high quality top 9 forwards, but definitely don't need 3.

Not at all interested in Hagelin or Eberle either.

Not against trading the 1st for a top-pairing dman, if it makes sense.

Not against Talbot as back-up.

 

[DancingPanther]

Holy ****, another one

Should we keep a tally?

I believe we're now at 3

 

[bauer]

Don’t need to sign 2 forwards. Adding one is enough. Zuccarello makes some sense if Jake is moved for a 2C. Depends who I guess.

It’s gonna be interesting to see what Fletcher does there. After Duchene the UFA C’s kinda suck.

 

[trostol]

Legit sniper...even if it means said sniper is weak on the defensive end...we need just a pure speedy goal scorer

Competent backup goalie

a top 4 veteran d-man

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Should we keep a tally?

I believe we're now at 3

There may be 3 that are "active"-ish, but it's closer to 30.

 

[Prongo]

With the flyers playing in Prague next year to open the season I don’t see them trading Voracek.

I believe the NHL would reach out and see what the plans were in the offseason. I know we have Gudas still but Voracek is one of the biggest stars in the league from the country.

I believe the goal is to weed out the players the team finds disposable ( I feel like the think ghost might be in the group). Take a run with our group this year with a new GM and new coach. If the result is similar to this year, we start to trim core players. Voracek would be one player who would be an option.

 

[Juicy Pop]

I'm wary about trading a player like Voracek.

While his two-way play may have declined over the last several years, he's one of our best cycling forwards and has proven to be a consistent 20g/60p producer with higher year to year potential. We have very few players that can consistently outmuscle opponents along the boards to maintain zone time, and among those it's Voracek who stands out the most.

 

[deadhead]

Who we sign depends on the price tag.
Zuc is valuable, but the wrong side of 30.
Hayes would be a good fit, but he's not worth 2C money.
Duchene is talented but not worth 1C money.
And so on.

Which is why it's important to be patient when FA starts, if the initial prices are inflated, wait a week and the over spenders exhaust their funds and you can bargain hunt for players who can help you without screwing your cap.

As last summer showed, teams for the most part are becoming more sensible, though the price of bottom 6 forwards was a bit ridiculous in some cases (Komarov, for example). We got a reasonable deal with JVR, I'd take Duchene on that kind of deal, but not 7yr/$9+M.

Fletcher doesn't have to build a Cup contender in one summer, some tweaks should get us into the playoffs, and you can always make the big move next summer if need be.

 

[flyersfromquebec]

Before trading any of our top players, I wanna see how they perform under a NHL coaching and system. Then if Fletcher and AV see someone doesn't fit you pull the trigger. Trading Voracek now for instance would be a panic move. Nobody will offer the moon. Just see what AV can do, go sign a 2c and a 4d and vet 4th liner with size. (Imo the playoff show 1 thing, the season and the playoffs are 2 extremely different style. You need big depth player that forecheck and have character, yes in the season you'll have more success with small fast players but nobody wanna pull a Tampa Bay).

 

[TB87]

Trade everyone that is bad for everyone that is good

This plan is foolproof. I like it a lot

 

[Bruckuss]

Per the main board, Rasmus Ristolainen in BUF might be available? Signed @$5.4 thru '22. Can't say I am up to speed on his play, but a 24 yo 6'4 RD with offensive upside moves the needle for me.

Is there a fit here? What would it take if so? our 1st + ?

I am guessing they would want Ghost in a hockey trade, not something I would want to see happen myself.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Swing for the fences for the top UFA's (Panarin\Karlsson), if that doesn't pan out, look to make a shrewd trade for an impact F or D on a team looking to shake it up and might get pennies on the dollar.

Short of that, wait to fight another day when something else might come available.\

This team has tons of depth here or on the way. Making a major move or contract for a good but not great player could be a fatal move.

 

[deadhead]

Per the main board, Rasmus Ristolainen in BUF might be available? Signed @$5.4 thru '22. Can't say I am up to speed on his play, but a 24 yo 6'4 RD with offensive upside moves the needle for me.

Is there a fit here? What would it take if so? our 1st + ?

I am guessing they would want Ghost in a hockey trade, not something I would want to see happen myself.

Pass, he's really bad defensively, while Buffalo pulls people down, his suck is very consistent.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

With the flyers playing in Prague next year to open the season I don’t see them trading Voracek.

I believe the NHL would reach out and see what the plans were in the offseason. I know we have Gudas still but Voracek is one of the biggest stars in the league from the country.

I believe the goal is to weed out the players the team finds disposable ( I feel like the think ghost might be in the group). Take a run with our group this year with a new GM and new coach. If the result is similar to this year, we start to trim core players. Voracek would be one player who would be an option.

If they really want to trade Jake, and right now I am unconvinced that they do I dont think starting the season in Prague is going to deter them from doing so. Same goes for Gudas.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Per the main board, Rasmus Ristolainen in BUF might be available? Signed @$5.4 thru '22. Can't say I am up to speed on his play, but a 24 yo 6'4 RD with offensive upside moves the needle for me.

Is there a fit here? What would it take if so? our 1st + ?

I am guessing they would want Ghost in a hockey trade, not something I would want to see happen myself.

Stay away.

 

[Bruckuss]

What if we could get Risto for the 1st + Amac + depth D prospect..

I know he isn't a defensive gem, but as a relatively sheltered 2nd pair w/ RH shot you still think he wouldn't strengthen the lineup?