What is your opinion of Craig Button?

Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by Orfieus, Aug 19, 2017.

View Users: View Users
  1. Orfieus

    Orfieus Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2012
    Messages:
    1,885
    Likes Received:
    285
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Location:
    Atlantic Canada
    For me it is hard to explain. Disclaimer, I am a Leaf fan and my experience with Button revolves around the Maple Leafs, so maybe your opinion of his is different.

    What I know is he was not the best GM (some would go as far to say terrible GM). Very early on in the season he was a big proponent of trading Nylander (before we really knew just how great this kid is. We all knew he had a lot of potential). He also believes Kapanen isn't a NHL player because he is too inconsistent. He has now said on record it "make sense" for Tavares to sign a 1yr deal in Toronto.

    I just want to point these things out. The weird thing is even with all of this I still believe he does a good job on air killing time. He has a lot of stories and a lot of trivia facts about hockey, just take his personal opinions with a grain of salt.
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2017
  2. A1LeafNation

    A1LeafNation Tavares Strong!!!

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    Messages:
    13,827
    Likes Received:
    2,829
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Mediocre eye for junior talent. Below Average everything else.
     
  3. Bozle

    Bozle Showtime, baby

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2010
    Messages:
    70,705
    Likes Received:
    5,959
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Location:
    Playing video games
    Big nose, bigger mouth

    Every now and then he'll have a moment of clarity, but most of the time he's more full of **** than a sewer
     
  4. Reinhart

    Reinhart Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Messages:
    1,353
    Likes Received:
    64
    Trophy Points:
    71
    I actually like him. Sure, he is off on a few picks, but who isn't? He also sticks by his guns on certain players even though the rest of the scouting world disagrees. For instance, he thought very low of Virtanen, and though there is a chance still for Virtanen to prove Button wrong, he thus far has proved Button right.

    This is also coming from a Flames' fan that thought he wasn't a good GM at all. He gave away Savard (imagine Iginla and Savard together during their prime years! Drool!) for NOTHING, and even tried to trade Iginla for Mike Peca (thank goodness Buffalo turned him down).

    I do think he has gotten better with time at evaluating prospects. I always look forward to his lists whenever they are published. Once again, is he perfect? Absolutely not, but he is often quite right. I would be interested to see him become an NHL GM again. I would bet he would be a good choice for a team that is just entering a rebuild. With how much he has scouted and how many other scouts he probably has spoken with, he is probably at the top of the list of GMs with his finger on the pulse of many prospects (some of which he could trade for as well). Plus, he already has GM experience. I think it would be interesting to see how he would do again as a GM in that situation.

    Just hopefully not for my team in the future.
     
  5. DominicBoltsFan

    DominicBoltsFan Advanced stats are good!

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2016
    Messages:
    18,905
    Likes Received:
    3,329
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    High school student
    Location:
    Tampa
  6. Weissy Baby

    Weissy Baby Registered User

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    79
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Selkirk, Manitoba
    I generally respect his analysis on players, and his opinions. However I disagree with how he sets up his top prospects each year as it doesn't really appeal to what fans want to know which is who their favorite team should draft instead of who will be the best at the NHL level. For drafting prospects McKenzie has the best list each year. There also is just something about Button that is kind of annoying, but I'm not sure what it is.
     
  7. Pastor Of Muppets

    Pastor Of Muppets Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2017
    Messages:
    898
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Used to loathe hearing his voice and his opinion...Although,in the last few years,I've come to respect his opinion..(I don't always agree with it)....One reason I do respect him is because ..When he does have an opinion..he takes the time to explain the reasoning behind it..

    As to making rash statements without thinking,or backing them up..That goes to TSN's Jeff'O'Neill,who is an out and out Jackass..
     
  8. SB84

    SB84 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2015
    Messages:
    1,784
    Likes Received:
    178
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Location:
    Calgary, AB
    I respect his opinion. He is a little stubborn on some players but he provides good insight and obviously watches the players he talks about thoroughly. He is very honest and I respect what he has to say. I find that he is right more often on player she doesn't like (Virtanen) than on players he likes.

    I like him and I like listening to him but I understand he isn't the best at what he does. Far better than most and isn't afraid to stray from the norm
     
  9. Brent Burns Beard

    Brent Burns Beard DontTouchMyDonskoi!

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    5,150
    Likes Received:
    81
    Trophy Points:
    146
    I enjoy his takes but he is a sell out click bait hack.
     
  10. Weissy Baby

    Weissy Baby Registered User

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    79
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Selkirk, Manitoba
    I personally don't know anyone who likes or respects Jeff O'Neill as a broadcaster. He is even worse than a lot of the guys on Sportsnet and I didn't know that was even possible!
     
  11. Inflict

    Inflict Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Messages:
    2,350
    Likes Received:
    540
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    Winnipeg
    He went from being one of the worst analysts on TV to being pretty decent at it. I still take his opinions with a grain of salt, but he knows more about prospects than 99% of people that post here.
     
  12. biturbo19

    biturbo19 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2010
    Messages:
    14,829
    Likes Received:
    502
    Trophy Points:
    139
    I like that he sticks to his guns, and isn't afraid to go out on a limb at times. I certainly don't trust him to be right all the time and i often disagree with his opinions on things...but i really like that he puts them out there, tries to explain them.

    He often provides a different perspective on things to consider. That's something in what seems to be an increasingly homologous hockey media.
     
  13. Digital Kid

    Digital Kid Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2015
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Location:
    Calgary
    He changed the core of the Flames enough that Darryl Sutter was able to tweak it enough to get into the SC Final in 2004.

    Had technology been better (Game 6) and refereering being some of the worst in SC Final history (Game 4 - the infamous one where fans littered the ice with pop, beer, popcorn and other assorted garbage after the game ended) then he would have played a key role in turning a terrible team into a SC champion within three years.

    His main philosophy is generally "Don't put players in a position to fail" so if you have a 3rd liner, don't expect him to be a 1st liner because he is on the 1st line. Etc.
     
  14. Dart Guy

    Dart Guy Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    812
    Likes Received:
    583
    Trophy Points:
    74
    Location:
    Beaver City
    For me it depends on who's he's on air with. If he's on overdrive his hot takes are a little less ridiculous but I find when he's on leafs lunch he gets carried away. A lot of people are quick to point out things he gets wrong but he gets some stuff right also. I remember he was pretty vocal about Provorov and Werenski being better players than Hanafin and he was pretty bang on with that one.
     
  15. MrNasty

    MrNasty Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    Messages:
    2,299
    Likes Received:
    227
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    Nova Scotia
    When I look back at all the draft rankings (I keep a database from each year) Button has better success than most mainstream scouting services. his judgement of the top ten is below average but he is good at predicting talent from the mid-first round to the 3rd.
     
  16. Cotton

    Cotton Registered User

    Joined:
    May 13, 2013
    Messages:
    5,213
    Likes Received:
    1,477
    Trophy Points:
    128
    Lots of people like him.
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2017
  17. izzy

    izzy go

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2012
    Messages:
    77,330
    Likes Received:
    4,861
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Location:
    Nova Scotia
    hes terrible
     
  18. Orfieus

    Orfieus Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2012
    Messages:
    1,885
    Likes Received:
    285
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Location:
    Atlantic Canada
    I enjoy listening to him, he is very passionate about hockey and the Leafs.
     
  19. East Coast Icestyle

    East Coast Icestyle Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2015
    Messages:
    2,247
    Likes Received:
    495
    Trophy Points:
    80
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    He's getting better. He's an ass, but I find good information comes from him more often than the bad. He has a good eye for young guys, in my opinion. Everyone is hit or miss on that, though.
     
  20. Iapyi

    Iapyi Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2017
    Messages:
    2,186
    Likes Received:
    589
    Trophy Points:
    94
    he seems to be moving towards a more TMZish type of style. i don't watch TMZ cuz i know what it's all about and i don't care for that kind of fluffy crap.
     
  21. Carolinas Identity*

    Carolinas Identity* I'm a bad troll...

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    31,250
    Likes Received:
    951
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Grad Student, Bartender
    Location:
    Calgary, AB
    he teh suck

    but for whatever reason, i find it hard to turn the channel when he's on, even tho i usually really want to :laugh:
     
  22. tony d

    tony d Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    67,841
    Likes Received:
    1,598
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Office Worker
    Location:
    Behind A Tree
    He has some strong opinions, most I disagree with but I still respect them.
     
  23. Aerchon

    Aerchon Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2011
    Messages:
    6,133
    Likes Received:
    487
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Gender:
    Male
    One of those guys who at his best sounds reasonable but most time comes off as a complete idiot. Extremely rare sounds smart and certainly seems like the old saying "even a broken clock is right twice a day".

    Guys like him make me think pretty much anyone can be a nhl GM/analyst.
     
  24. major major

    major major Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2013
    Messages:
    13,860
    Likes Received:
    1,161
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Blowhard with an improving track record. I also remember him being very right about Provorov > Hanifin (so far).
     
  25. BigEezyE22

    BigEezyE22 Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    3,627
    Likes Received:
    472
    Trophy Points:
    124
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Jersey
    Prefer Zipper.
     

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"