What is the logic behind Russia playing early today & Canada late

Discussion in 'International Tournaments' started by Sammy*, Jan 3, 2011.

View Users: View Users
  1. Sammy*

    Sammy* Guest

    It makes no sense.
    And Im Canadian.
    Canada should be in the early game, having played earlier yesterday.
     
  2. Confucius

    Confucius Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2009
    Messages:
    14,255
    Likes Received:
    372
    Trophy Points:
    124
    Location:
    Toronto
    It has to do with the U S. They want their team playing during primetime. Canada just happens to be the opponent.
     
  3. mymkovski

    mymkovski Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    Messages:
    316
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Host country gets the late game. Meaning USA plays at the 7:30 Eastern time slot no matter what.

    This ended up being unfair for the Russians with the quick turnaround, but dem da breaks in the world juniors.
     
  4. bruinsfan46

    bruinsfan46 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2006
    Messages:
    11,457
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    114
    Location:
    London, ON
    Uh this thing called TV ratings. Of course they're gonna put Canada-US as the primetime game, the tournament is a business. US was always gonna play in the 7:30 game and Canada was gonna play early if they didn't play the US.
     
  5. fly4apuckguy

    fly4apuckguy Mr. Old School

    Joined:
    May 16, 2009
    Messages:
    11,243
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    101
    This happens to teams every year. Not sure why it has become such an outrage this year.
     
  6. 13 others

    13 others Dim Jim

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Messages:
    9,253
    Likes Received:
    174
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    Vancouver, Wa
    They want the popular game during prime time.
     
  7. Sammy*

    Sammy* Guest

    But couldnt they have flipped yesterdays games?
     
  8. dmacgreg37

    dmacgreg37 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,173
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    84
    Location:
    British Columbia
    That's where TV comes in. TSN wants Canada in the early Sunday game. They had other commitments last night (hence the tape delay of the other Semi). 3:30 PM EST (like yesterdays game) is a good time for a game for Canadian TV on a Sunday.
     
  9. sepHF

    sepHF Patreeky

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2010
    Messages:
    13,820
    Likes Received:
    564
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Host country gets prime time games, though I agree with the OP it SHOULD be the other way around for fairness sake.
     
  10. dystemper

    dystemper Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2009
    Messages:
    988
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    44
    does the OP realise that if canada beat sweden, they would have played in the early semi-final game, but they lost it so they end up matching against the americans.
     
  11. PensBeerGeek

    PensBeerGeek Registered User

    Joined:
    May 1, 2007
    Messages:
    1,029
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Ph.D. student/GTA
    Location:
    Washington, PA
    The only logic is television. TV brodcasts dictate all else, plain and simple.
     
  12. joe89

    joe89 #5

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2009
    Messages:
    20,203
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Two very easy factors. USA is hosting the tournament, and Canada(TSN) has the inside track on broadcasting games and choosing times when Canada plays.
     
  13. Bakayoko Ono

    Bakayoko Ono Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2007
    Messages:
    4,174
    Likes Received:
    162
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    Helsinki
    North American bias.
     
  14. Man Bear Pig

    Man Bear Pig Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2008
    Messages:
    21,638
    Likes Received:
    2,527
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Location:
    Earth
    For TV ratings obviously. Also the fact that people who live out West will be able to catch the game if they worked today. It's all about TV. I prefer seeing the game on tonight rather then earlier even though it's on during the same time as my NHL club.
     
  15. Brock Anton

    Brock Anton flames #badnwagon

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Messages:
    18,617
    Likes Received:
    2,085
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Location:
    Westerly, RI
    USA/Canada on primetime = ratings.
     
  16. dmacgreg37

    dmacgreg37 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,173
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    84
    Location:
    British Columbia
    Not bias. North American caring. Canada actually care about the tournament, therefore our TV gets first dibs. Prior to TSN, and somehwat CBC before it, carrying this tournament, it was a nothing tournament in empty arenas. Now it's a monster tournament held in (mostly) full NHL arenas.
     
  17. Statsy

    Statsy Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2009
    Messages:
    2,429
    Likes Received:
    204
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Location:
    Vancouver
    It would be Hockey Canada that actually gets the say, not TSN.
     
  18. dmacgreg37

    dmacgreg37 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,173
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    84
    Location:
    British Columbia
    And who do you think HC turns to first? Their life partner TSN.
     
  19. dawgweed

    dawgweed Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You guys are all close but not quite on target.

    The divisions are determined by the previous year's results. After that the schedule is then determined by the host country. USA Hockey determined the schedule in a manner they hoped was best for them and it worked for them. They can obviously be lobbied and influenced; I don't doubt that TSN did their best to get a favourable TV schedule.

    Canada playing in the late game today was just a "side affect" of the initial scheduling.
     
  20. dmacgreg37

    dmacgreg37 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,173
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    84
    Location:
    British Columbia
    You're missing the key. Look at the schedule. It says something to the effect of USA will play in QF or SF late game if they make the game. If Canada makes the QF or SF and USA does not, they will play the early game. Obviously that is something that Canada would've gotten. The US can only determine the pool schedule order and when their QF/SF game would be.
     
  21. Shrimper

    Shrimper Trick or ruddy treat

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2010
    Messages:
    98,455
    Likes Received:
    1,358
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Location:
    Essex
    Home Page:
    Prime time ratings means more viewers, also being at 7:30 most people are either at home for the night or in bars and pubs which will show the game and get it shown even more than if it was at say 5:00PM.
     
  22. Davebo*

    Davebo* Guest

    However it's figured out, it works for all groups - in North America folks will be home from work - and it's prime time. In Europe, they get to watch their game at a decent hour - they aren't up until 02:00 in the morning watching hockey.
     
  23. milhouse7

    milhouse7 Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    Messages:
    142
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    USA always gets the late game and Canada always gets the early game, unless of course they play the US. This is to maximize the television coverage for both the US team and Canadian team instead of competing against each other for viewers.

    Through the whole tournamant Canada and US never played at the same time.
     
  24. Caeldan

    Caeldan Whippet Whisperer

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2008
    Messages:
    14,066
    Likes Received:
    173
    Trophy Points:
    141
    If anything Russia-Sweden should've played a couple hours earlier in the day so that way home country fans could get a chance to see the game at a reasonable hour.
     
  25. Evil Romano

    Evil Romano Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2011
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Mr Know-it-all
    Location:
    Bassano Vicenza
    Canada has more veto than the US - despite the fact that the Americans are hosting this year. The Canadians can always put their "diplomatic" power into the issue; controlling who is playing when and where. The Canadians always - and evidently ALWAYS - get the best times, the best locker rooms; the best opportunities, if they have the chance to. Mark my words - it is almost conspiratorial. :yo:
     

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"