What If Anything do the Isles do about Goaltending???

[Kevin27NYI]

No goalie will succeed behind this defense.

That's a cop out, Nabby has given up some horrible goals, and it cost us big last night. Put Halak in, an arguable average 11-20 goalie in the league, and we have five wins instead of three.

 

[WangMustGo]

That's a cop out, Nabby has given up some horrible goals, and it cost us big last night. Put Halak in, an arguable average 11-20 goalie in the league, and we have five wins instead of three.

Completely agree here. Nabby lets in so many soft goals, it really kills the teams momentum and confidence. He has been awful outside of the first couple of games. A good goaltender makes up for a lot of mistakes the defense makes, and I can't say Nabby does that. To many fans here settle for mediocracy, whether its from the forwards, defense, goaltending, or management. Things need to change, and a good goaltender would make this team much better.

 

[Space Herpe]

I'm confused why everyone, even seemingly Isles management does not think Poulin is an NHL goalie, if thats the case then why is he even the backup and why is he not at Bridgeport? It seems to me either Garth or Jack is not sold on Poulin given the fact he gets so few starts, to me this is the time to figure out what you may have with him, start him every 3-4 games and if by January 1st if he's posting good numbers you consider making him the #1 goalie.

I was thinking about this the other night.
If the Isles think Poulin is the go to guy, would it make sense for him to ride the pine in the NHL or play in the AHL?

To me, it would be play.

So, to me at least, this means the Isles think Nillson is their guy since they are giving him playing time.

No goalie will succeed behind this defense. We give up too many big play/back door attemps. Sure Nabby's play cost us last night but I don't think we'd be sitting at 7-2 or 6-3 with a better goalie.

I would really like to see Poulin get a few starts to see if he can put together a string of "successful' games. IE, bailing the D and LAZY forwards out in the defensive zone. He's been healthy for over a year now and maybe he'll bounce back to his pre injury form.

I wonder what the Isles D will look like next year.
Griffin is pretty much a lock for next year.
Cavlin? Maybe?
Mayfield?
Who else?

But, that's a whole 'nother discussion.

Point is, with eager young kids with something to prove, perhaps the D will be a tad bit more solid - perhaps

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

I have the solution! Let's trade Nino + 1st + mid level prospect for Johnathan Bern..... Oh wait.

That wasn't ever going to happen because of Nino's cap hit. I would have liked Bernier as well, but LA got exactly what they wanted from Toronto.

 

[LeapOnOver]

I definitely think we are going to start seeing some more Poulin starts in the near future, regardless of these back to backs.

I also agree that Nabby has let in some soft goals but he's also stood on his head just as many times. The Van loss was really the first one where I have to blame him, but can't take away the fact that our defense is ridonkulous and adds to it as well.

Poulin has a chance to let management know what they are dealing with. Can he be the starter of the future or will we still be clamoring to fill yet another blatant hole in the roster.

 

[duster19]

True, but how many games would you say we have won because of him?

Nabokov is really best suited to be a backup at this point. You hope he will keep you in games, you don't expect him to win them for you. If you want to not only make the playoffs but compete, you need a goalie capable of stealing a few.

Exactly. The islanders especially need a good goalie because they ask a lot of them. They activate their d into the rush a lot and that results in giving up chances.

 

[On Edge]

Nabokov has been consistently below average or outright bad in his last 10-12 games going back to the playoffs.

The time has simply arrived to give Poulin some consecutive starts in goal. It is the smartest most simple, common sense approach to make at this point. Let's see what he has.

Same theory that supposedly applies to players on the ice should also apply in goal. You have to earn the opportunity to play or keep to your job.

 

[A Pointed Stick]

staple has already said that they're going to play the season with nabokov then try to get at starter in the offseason



last night and maybe the game before are really the only games i'd blame nabby on. i still don't understand why poulin doesn't get another start...

Snowang painted itself into a corner. They don't trust Poulin for the same reasons many of us don't trust Poulin. How funny will it be when Nabby is completely burnt out, and then they have to go to Poulin, and he bombs, and they have no where else to turn? Going 3-3-3 will feel like winning the Stanley Cup when that disaster strikes.

I know I will be laughing my butt off while I put my foot through the tv because no one, especially none of us, saw the train heading towards the washed out bridge months ahead of time. (A well deserved hat tip to Dan-O who preached about this).

 

[TheWhiteWhale30]

Snowang painted itself into a corner. They don't trust Poulin for the same reasons many of us don't trust Poulin. How funny will it be when Nabby is completely burnt out, and then they have to go to Poulin, and he bombs, and they have no where else to turn? Going 3-3-3 will feel like winning the Stanley Cup when that disaster strikes.

I know I will be laughing my butt off while I put my foot through the tv because no one, especially none of us, saw the train heading towards the washed out bridge months ahead of time. (A well deserved hat tip to Dan-O who preached about this).

This post made me laugh..even though it shouldn't be funny at all lol maybe I went off the deep end with this team idk. Either way I couldn't agree more with your post.

 

[wingnutks]

Snowang painted itself into a corner. They don't trust Poulin for the same reasons many of us don't trust Poulin. How funny will it be when Nabby is completely burnt out, and then they have to go to Poulin, and he bombs, and they have no where else to turn? Going 3-3-3 will feel like winning the Stanley Cup when that disaster strikes.

I know I will be laughing my butt off while I put my foot through the tv because no one, especially none of us, saw the train heading towards the washed out bridge months ahead of time. (A well deserved hat tip to Dan-O who preached about this).

I think a ton of us saw it.

 

[A Pointed Stick]

I think a ton of us saw it.

LOL, it was sarcasm WN. Just about all of us saw it to some degree.

This team's way of reacting to real problems is to stand up and scream," QUICK! HURRY UP AND DO NOTHING!!!1! Now buy season tickets please."

And yes hiring Regin and PMB is pretty much doing nothing.

 

[wingnutks]

LOL, it was sarcasm WN. Just about all of us saw it to some degree.

This team's way of reacting to real problems is to stand up and scream," QUICK! HURRY UP AND DO NOTHING!!!1! Now buy season tickets please."

And yes hiring Regin and PMB is pretty much doing nothing.

Lol whoops

 

[It Was 4 to 1*]

Snowang painted itself into a corner. They don't trust Poulin for the same reasons many of us don't trust Poulin. How funny will it be when Nabby is completely burnt out, and then they have to go to Poulin, and he bombs, and they have no where else to turn? Going 3-3-3 will feel like winning the Stanley Cup when that disaster strikes.

I know I will be laughing my butt off while I put my foot through the tv because no one, especially none of us, saw the train heading towards the washed out bridge months ahead of time. (A well deserved hat tip to Dan-O who preached about this).

dan-o really went out on a limb by saying a 38 year old goaltender might get worse. he was still the best option ***FREE AGENCY*** had to give.

 

[Felix Unger]

dan-o really went out on a limb by saying a 38 year old goaltender might get worse. he was still the best option ***FREE AGENCY*** had to give.

Not improving the team through trade, including at net shows that Snow has no desire to take risks. I'm sorry, but I cannot believe that Matt frigging Frattin was an impossible barrier. Come on.

As for free agency, Snow easily could have acquired a legitimate backup, he just didn't.

This is the league's most underrated GM at work.

 

[Bexlyspeed]

I love Nabby but we need an upgrade in goal.

its Obvious Poulin is not ready, and he may never be.

we have our core hitting their stride and its time to add a few pieces.

maybe Nino did force the isles hands a little but i think a good GM would have gotten something better than Clutterbuck.
Clutterbuck is playing a lot better but he did not fill any of our needs.

we need a winger on the tavares line, we need a couple of Defensemen and we need a goalie.

Garth has failed, whether it was because of wang or not.

yes we have drafted pretty well and yes he has gotten us some steals on the waiver wire, but that well has run dry and here is where he will be tested.
get this team the personnel it needs to win either free agency or a trade.

 

[luki here]

how long is koskinen's contract in the khl? He may be a candidate for TC next season if his stellar play overseas continues.

 

[kasper11]

Not improving the team through trade, including at net shows that Snow has no desire to take risks. I'm sorry, but I cannot believe that Matt frigging Frattin was an impossible barrier. Come on.

It was Frattin, with salary retained, plus a backup goalie, which we all know the Isles don't have (see below).

As for free agency, Snow easily could have acquired a legitimate backup, he just didn't.

This was the real problem. If Nabokov was the best starter available, bring in Khudobin or Greiss both young, proven backups. The Isles should have been an attractive fit, with a 38 year old goalie signed to a 1-year deal as the starter there would obviously be lots of room for a good backup to prove themself. Instead, they both went to teams with a proven starter signed to a long-term deal.

 

[Words Of Wisdom]

It seems pretty obvious that the Isles are not gonna make a move for a goalie until the season. Unless Miller would agree to an extension. Miller isn't that young though.

What I don't get? Why Nabokov is the starter over Poulin?

 

[Felix Unger]

It was Frattin, with salary retained, plus a backup goalie, which we all know the Isles don't have (see below).

Yeah, yeah yeah. Matt Frattin, a backup goalie, and 450K were hills too steep for Snowang to climb. Whatever.

That's why we lose.

 

[enigmatic]

Yeah, yeah yeah. Matt Frattin, a backup goalie, and 450K were hills too steep for Snowang to climb. Whatever.

That's why we lose.

you should make this the quote under your avatar....haha

 

[MDIsles]

It seems pretty obvious that the Isles are not gonna make a move for a goalie until the season. Unless Miller would agree to an extension. Miller isn't that young though.

What I don't get? Why Nabokov is the starter over Poulin?

Here is why, this version of Nabby is 110% (and thats not good) better than a post knee injury Poulin. IMO Poulin, flops, is nervous, and lacks confidence and rebound control in net. The BHawks should have ripped the Isles apart in that game.

 

[enigmatic]

Here is why, this version of Nabby is 110% (and thats not good) better than a post knee injury Poulin. IMO Poulin, flops, is nervous, and lacks confidence and rebound control in net. The BHawks should have ripped the Isles apart in that game.

i agree with you that nabby is better than poulin right now but when you say flops and lacks rebound control, you very well could be talking about nabokov...just add in the weak glove hand and you have nabbys scouting report

poulin, while he didnt look "elite" versus CHI, did look very good and had his best start in some time (possibly ever?)

as others have said, either make a trade (not gonna happen, as much as i wish it would) or give poulin 20-22 games over the rest of the year to see what he has, and obviously more if he deserves it

sidenote, what do you think it would take right now to get halak? could he be had for de haan and a 2nd, or do you think it would definitely take a first

 

[Islanderfan17]

Poulin has to step up and force their hand into playing them more. If that doesn't happen I say sign Bryz to a one year deal. Your going to get a guy who's determined to prove everyone wrong and you won't see any **** from. Hell I'm not even sure he was a bad guy in Philly and it was just the media that tore him apart.

No thanks. Bryz is one of the most careless Hockey players I've seen in the NHL, he is funny but he does NOT have the attitude to cut it in this league and in just about any locker room.

 

[Fantom]

Well at this point what can this team do?

1. Trade for Miller

2. Trade for Hiller

3. Trade for Halak


4. Maybe this team will trade for defense to help Nabby out?

I still think this team wants to see what Poulin has. The only way to do this is to unleash the beast and let him play! If Poulin faulters they could sign Bryz (if he even wants to come here to play). This is another reason why we should have seen what we could have had in Big Griff this season. Even for only 5 games we could have known if he was better than Carkner.

I'm sick of Nabby already. He cost us the NSH game as well as this last one. He won us the Devils game in the shootout, but where else has he came up big?

you don't trade for Miller IMO he is going to be a Free Agent.
the stuff required via trade are going to high for a free agent.
I like the other guys. However i think our best plan would be to sign Bryz for 2 maybe 3 years on a decent deal. take the stuff you wanted to trade for a goalie and grab a D man

 

[Fantom]

That's a cop out, Nabby has given up some horrible goals, and it cost us big last night. Put Halak in, an arguable average 11-20 goalie in the league, and we have five wins instead of three.

While i agree with you. you never know