CHooligan
Registered User
I have been following the draft closely since 1992. I have made some observations over the time.
I would like you to share your own observations from the draft.
Here is one of mine:
Don't pick a big defenseman with limited offensive potential in the first round
Between 1993 and 2007, I have registered 28 defenseman picked in the first round coming from the CHL that have had a below 30 point season in their draft year.
On those 28 players, only 6 (Witt, McKee, Allan, Regehr, Fischer, Staal) have had or are having, IMO, a decent to good career. Notice none have been close to be nominated to the Norris trophy. On those players, only Regehr and Staal could be considered as top pair defenseman...and to me, Regher is second pair Dman.
The 28 players are : Witt, Belak, McKee, Ware, Brown, Aitken, Ward, Focht, Larocque, Descoteaux, Brown, Wallin, Ferrence, Grimes, Allen, Regeher, Fischer, Mezei, Belle, Valabik, Fistric, Rogers, Staal, Parent, Kindl, Lashoff, Pelech, Ellerby.
The "succes" rate for this type of players is 6/28=21.4%. So, 1 out of 5 players of that type is going to have an NHL career. This rate is way below the average rate for a first rounder.
I would add that none of this player overachieved. The only one overachiever would be Tyler Myers picked in 2008. Chara is also overachieving but he was not a first round pick.
To sum up, the risk of picking this type of player is very high and the reward is low. Only 1 or 2 out 28 became a top 2 defenseman.
Scouts seem to forget that defensive players in the NHL like Barret Jackman, Kyle McLaren,Rostislav Klesla and Denis Gauthier, as exemple, were getting some points in the CHL.
If a team is really looking for a big defensemen with limited skill, they can get one for a 3rd round pick. O'byrne has been traded for Bournival this year. So for a third round pick, you can get a defensive NHL player. If a was a GM, I would prefer to give a 3rd pick for a NHL ready player than having 21% of chance of having this same kind of player by using my first round pick.
So, why are teams still drafting players like Tinordi or Oleksiak in the first round???
I would like you to share your own observations from the draft.
Here is one of mine:
Don't pick a big defenseman with limited offensive potential in the first round
Between 1993 and 2007, I have registered 28 defenseman picked in the first round coming from the CHL that have had a below 30 point season in their draft year.
On those 28 players, only 6 (Witt, McKee, Allan, Regehr, Fischer, Staal) have had or are having, IMO, a decent to good career. Notice none have been close to be nominated to the Norris trophy. On those players, only Regehr and Staal could be considered as top pair defenseman...and to me, Regher is second pair Dman.
The 28 players are : Witt, Belak, McKee, Ware, Brown, Aitken, Ward, Focht, Larocque, Descoteaux, Brown, Wallin, Ferrence, Grimes, Allen, Regeher, Fischer, Mezei, Belle, Valabik, Fistric, Rogers, Staal, Parent, Kindl, Lashoff, Pelech, Ellerby.
The "succes" rate for this type of players is 6/28=21.4%. So, 1 out of 5 players of that type is going to have an NHL career. This rate is way below the average rate for a first rounder.
I would add that none of this player overachieved. The only one overachiever would be Tyler Myers picked in 2008. Chara is also overachieving but he was not a first round pick.
To sum up, the risk of picking this type of player is very high and the reward is low. Only 1 or 2 out 28 became a top 2 defenseman.
Scouts seem to forget that defensive players in the NHL like Barret Jackman, Kyle McLaren,Rostislav Klesla and Denis Gauthier, as exemple, were getting some points in the CHL.
If a team is really looking for a big defensemen with limited skill, they can get one for a 3rd round pick. O'byrne has been traded for Bournival this year. So for a third round pick, you can get a defensive NHL player. If a was a GM, I would prefer to give a 3rd pick for a NHL ready player than having 21% of chance of having this same kind of player by using my first round pick.
So, why are teams still drafting players like Tinordi or Oleksiak in the first round???