What do ur leafs look like next year , if u were Lou

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  1. IamruKusleaf

    IamruKusleaf Registered User

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    What do your leafs look like next year , if u were Lou ?
     
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    If I was Dubas*** since he's taking over

    Johnsson-Nylander-Kapanen
    Marleau-Matthews-Marner
    Leivo/Hyman-Kadri-Brown
    Leivo/Hyman-Aaltonen-Whoever

    Rielly-Dermott
    Gardiner-Hainsey
    Borgman-Zaitsev

    Andersen-Pickard

    In other words, pretty much what my post TD roster would've been since I would've sold UFAs
     
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    Are there any parameters to this? If not then i'll get creative

    Assuming the cap conservatively goes to 80M....

    Brown, 2nd for Pysyk
    Martin and Carrick after July 1st for a 4th
    Leivo for a 3rd

    Sign Tavares for 10M x7 years
    Sign Nash for 6M 1 year
    Re-sign Nylander 6M x7 years
    Re-sign Marner 6M x7 years
    Re-sign Matthews 11M x8 years
    Re-sign Johnssson 950k 1-way 1 year
    Re-sign Gauthier 850k 1-way 1 year
    Sign Brodziak 1 year 1.25M OR Beagle 1 year 2M or 2 years 1.75M


    Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
    Marleau-Kadri-Marner
    Nash-Tavares-Kapanen
    Johnsson-Beagle-Grundstrom
    Leivo-Gauthier

    Rielly-Pysyk
    Gardiner-Zaitsev
    Dermott-Hainsey
    Borgman

    Andersen
    McBackUp
     
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    This. This so much. Only thing is if Tavares is somehow signed, I would change it up a tad.
     
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    The triple M. I like it. Could really give Marleau a huge boost he could use. Playing with two skilled guys like 34 and 16 will give anyone a boost.
     
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    If Tavares does come here I'd probably try to slot him as the LW on the Matthews-Marner line - JT probably wouldn't like being put on the wing at first but think that would become a Boston 1st line level of domination, Matthews & Tavares work really well along the boards and Marner would feel like he's back in the O with the space he'd have. Then dump Marleau somewhere for cap/roster space reasons and leave the rest of the lineup as is
     
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    There are a lot of possibilities this summer to do big moves, I'd do something like this.

    Kapanen, Nielsen, 3rd '19 <-> Hamonic
    Gardiner <-> Picks to whoever
    Räsänen, Gauthier, Gardiner picks <-> O'Reilly (@ 6)

    Sign Beagle (1yr, 1,2M)
    Sign Pateryn (3yr, 2,25M)
    Sign Johnsson (2yr, 1,15M)

    Re-sign Nylander (7yr, 6M)

    Hyman-Matthews-Marner
    Johnsson-O'Reilly-Nylander
    Marleau-Kadri-Korshkov
    x-Beagle-Brown

    Rielly-Hamonic
    Hainsey-Zaitsev
    Dermott-Pateryn
    (Borgman-Ozhiganov)

    Andersen
    Sparks

    One can dream...
     
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    Pateryn 3x3M, Komarov 2x1.5M, Nylander 8x6, Tavares 7x10M, Wagner 2x1M. Gardiner + TOR 1st 2018 for Zacha + NJ 1st 2018 (assuming NJ has higher pick). Aaltonen and Johnsson signed 2x0.85M. Tanev for Kapanen+Rasanen+2nd. Let Borgman and Liljegren get a full season together in the AHL before becoming our 3rd pair in 2019-20.

    Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
    Zacha-Tavares-Marner
    Marleau-Kadri-Brown
    Komarov-Wagner-Martin
    Johnsson

    Rielly-Tanev
    Dermott-Pateryn
    Hainsey-Zaitsev
    Carrick

    Andersen
    McElhenney
     
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    Beagle isnt taking a 550,000 paycut to play for the leafs.
    Rasanen+Gauthier + picks don't get you anywhere close to a retained ROR
    the leafs, already weak at D, arent trading their 2nd best dman for picks
     
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    2018 1st rd pick (26th OA) + 2019 2nd rd pick + Carrick to VAN for Tanev
    Martin @2M to NYI for a 5th
    Sign Beagle 2 years @ 1.95M/year

    Hyman - Matthews - Brown
    Marleau - Kadri - Marner
    Johnsson - Nylander - Kapanen
    Aaltonen - Beagle - Korshkov
    *Gauthier/Leivo

    Rielly - Tanev
    Gardiner - Hainsey
    Dermott - Zaitsev
    *Borgman

    Andersen
    McEhlinney
     
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    Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
    Grundstrom - Tavares - Marner
    Marleau - Kadri - Kapanen
    Johnsson - Gauthier/Aaltonen - Brown
    Leivo - Aaltonen/Gauthier

    Rielly - Hainsey
    Gardiner - Carrick
    Dermott - Zaitsev
    Borgman

    Andersen
    Sparks

    I do expect additional moves in real life than just one signing, but I would be pretty happy with signing Tavares and filling the rest of our open spots internally.
     
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    Marleau-Matthews-Hyman
    Johnsson - Nylander - Marner (Shelter)
    Brown-Kadri-Kapanen
    Komarov/UFA-Goat/Alt-Leivo
    Martin

    Rielly Doughty
    Gardiner Hainsey
    Dermott Zaitsev
    Carrick/Borgman

    *notes: let’s face it Babcock is never gonna separate Hyman/Matthews. I would flip Hyman and Kapanen if I had a chance

    -komarov is a good PKer; either resign him or look for UFA (Grabner?)

    - we need to go get that 1D

    Year after next it would look something like

    Rielly Doughty
    Gardiner Zaitsev
    Dermott Liljegren
    Carrick/Borgman

    If we don’t resign Gards and trade him Dermott can move up and borgman-Liljegren can be third pairing
     
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    I won't go into details too much about this. Knowing Lamoriello if he's still here, the Leafs won't do a whole lot but I'll just pretend he took some crazy pills and goes for it.

    -Sign Tavares to a 7 year 11M contract
    -Gardiner for Tanev (indirectly) --Likely includes Leivo and prospects/picks in this
    -Martin given away.
    -Re-sign Komarov to a 2 year 2M cap hit deal

    Marleau - Tavares - Marner
    Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
    Johnsson - Kadri - Kapanen
    Komarov - Aaltonen - Brown
    Gauthier

    In the mix: Grundstrom and Korshkov.

    Rielly - Tanev
    Dermott - Zaitsev
    Hainsey - Carrick
    Borgman - Holl
     
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    The original question was for next year, don't know how Doughty gets put on posts.
    Reality is for 2018/19, the Leafs only have 11m in UFA money, Just don't see that many splashes the Leafs can make. 2019/20 seems more likely.
    Next year, the forwards . Hyman, Johnson, Marleau, Martin, Leivo. Matthews, Kadri, Aaltonen, Nylander, Marner, Brown, Kapanen. That's 12, If Nylander converts to centre, sure would make it easier for the Leafs to find wingers.
    Grundstrom and Korshov might be NHLers at some time next year but maybe not in October.

    Reilly, Gardiner, Dermot, Borgman, Zaitsev, Hainsey, Carrick? That Russian? Maybe use some UFA money for short term help.
     
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    To VAN: Gardiner, Carrick
    To TOR: Tanev, 3rd 2020

    Sign JT: 11x7
    Sign Rutta: 3.5x2
    Sign Beagle: 2x2

    Sign Nylander: 6x6
    Sign Kapanen: 1.5x2
    Sign Johnsson: 1x0.9

    Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
    Leivo-Tavares-Kapanen
    Marleau-Kadri-Marner
    Johnsson-Beagle-Brown

    Rielly-Tanev
    Dermott-Zaitsev
    Hainsey-Rutta

    Andersen
    McE


    Depth:
    F: Gauthier, Grundstrom, Korshkov, Aaltonen, Timashov, Bracco, Marchment, Moore
    D: Borgman, Ozhiganov, Holl, Liljegren, Rosen, Nielsen
    G: Sparks, Pickard
     
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    Right now I am hoping we(they)...

    1) sign JVR to 6x6m front loaded. No NMC
    2) sign Nylander under a bridge deal
    3) start negotiations with Gardiner for his next contract (6x6m)


    Ideally...

    Marleau Matthews Kapanen
    JVR Nylander Brown
    Leivo Kadri Marner
    Johnsson Aaltonen Hyman
    Goat

    Explanation. Left handed C's score with Right handed snipers. Right handed C have an easier time finding a Left handed Sniper...

    Matthews(L) -> Kapanen / Nylander / Marner
    Nylander(R) -> JVR / Leivo / Marleau / Johnsson
    Kadri(L) -> Marner / Brown / Kapanen
    Bozak(R) JVR / Leivo / Marleau

    This is why I believe that Babcock has crippled our team on purpose to keep numbers down... Think about it, Bozak is a righty, he feeds the left side MARNER never belonged here. Komarov has stone hands, he put him with Kadri who is a lefty. WRONG SIDE AGAIN. Proper.... Left handed Matthews with RW and Right handed Nylander but of course it will naturally work with Marner or Kapanen as well.
     
  17. ToneDog

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    Only way I see Leafs taking the next step to becoming a serious SC contender next year is to sign Tavares (I would use the same "Stamkos" sell job).

    Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
    Marleau- Tavares - Marner
    UFA (Vanek/Maroon/Grabner) - Kadri - Kapanen
    Grundstrom/Johnsson Aaltonen Brown
    Leivo - Gauthier

    I would try to sign Dehaan if there is a way to make him fit and/or possibly move Jake. What we cannot do is go with the same cast of characters on D again.

    Rielly - Hainsey
    Gardiner - Carrick
    Dermott - Zaitsev
    Borgman
     
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    I'm not going to guess who they'll bring in but the biggest needs are a 3/4th line C.
    A d-man that can log a lot of minutes. I doubt a #1 or #2 guy is available however
    The playoffs will tell more but I think they need some more size/grit on the wing.

    I'm guessing Brown and Gardiner are moved to address these needs and possibly a few picks/prospects
    Don't see them bringing Pleks back
    Komarov will get an offer but won't like it and will bolt
    JVR walks
    Bozak re-signed (although I hope not)
    Moore gonzo
     
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    So throw all money at forward position with no D? 10m JT is suicide the moment it's signed. Our D gets decimated come next round of Contracts.
     
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    what season is it summer, winter, fall or spring? and where is my (lous) retirement home?
     
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    Tavares signed (8y / $68M)
    Nylander, Marner, Nylander signed (total of ~$25M aav)

    Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
    Johnsson - Tavares - Kapanen
    Marleau - Kadri - Marner
    Aaltonen - Gauthier - Brown
    Martin

    Rielly - Dermott
    Gardiner - Zaitsev
    Hainsey - Liljegren

    Borgman - Carrick

    Andy, McH

    You mustn't be afraid to play your young players, darling.
     
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    Who is throwing money at forward position and if signing a guaranteed superstar in his prime is suicide then we may as well raise the flag and ask for an expansion team. How does our D get decimated next round of contracts. It is clear to me that nobody on this D is worth more than Reilly. If Gards wants more than Reilly, move him. Sign DeHaan.
     
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    I like your thinking except that I am not sure the Goat is an NHLer on a SC contender. Then again, with AM, JT and NK down the middle, the Goat would only be expected to play 8-10 minutes.
     
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    Hyman Matthews Nylander
    Kapanen Kadri Marner
    Marleau Thornton Johnsson
    Martin Plekanec Leivo/Komarov

    Rielly Carlson
    Gardiner Tanev
    Dermott Carrick/Polak/Liljegren
     
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    You have about 50m for 6 Forwards most likely. You need another 7-8 and 80m cap to work with. Let's average those guys out to 2m each. 16m + 6m tenders = 22m + 50m = 72m not including Defense.

    Matthews 12, JT 12, Marner 7.5, Nylander 7.5, Marleau 6.5, Kadri 4.5 (50M)

    Are you planning on having 6 good players and a shell team for the rest?
     

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