JustOneDansOpinion
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- Aug 18, 2019
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I'm working on a little project to estimate which goalies are most likely to be inducted into the Hall of Fame from the NHL. The project relies entirely on their stats, and doesn't take into account politics or social intricacies. I've come up with a few stats that I think would be important to take into account, but I'm looking for input on other ideas, and how heavily weighted certain stats should be. It's obviously difficult with goaltenders especially, since a lot of stats are heavily impacted by the team, or didn't really have data taken (Save % seemingly only started being tracked in 83-84).
So far I've looked into the following stats:
- Wins
- Shutouts
- All-Star Games
- Stanley Cups
- Calders
- Jennings
- Vezinas and Vezina Votes
- Harts and Hart Votes
- Pearson/Lindsays
- Conn Smythes
- Goals Against Average versus goalies of their era
- Save % versus goalies of their era
- Playoff Wins
- Playoff GAA versus goalies of their era
- Player Save & versus goalies of their era
- Playoff Success not including Cups
- Number of seasons ended with Top 5 in Wins, GAA, Save%, and Shutouts
These are all NHL stats, though I would give additional points for success in other professional leagues, or internationally.
My current methodology is to grade all the statistics on a curve, essentially finding the best player for each stat, and giving each goalie beneath that a percentage based score. So for example, Martin Brodeur holds the Shutout record at 125 shutouts. Roberto Luongo just retired with 77 Shutouts, so that would net him a 0.616 rating in the Shutout category, whereas Brodeur would have a full 1.0 points in the Shutout category.
I calculate each of the above stats using this method, and then weight each stat with a multiplier based on how integral to the Hall of Fame induction I believe it would be. For example, I currently weigh Calders very low, as a single good rookie season wouldn't show nearly as much as say a Conn Smythe trophy.
I'm very interested to know what other stats people think are important to compare goalies of different eras. How people would rate the importance of the stats I have listed above in terms of the Hall of Fame. And if anyone sees any glaring issues with my methodology I would be very interested to hear more about it. I have no formal background in stats or data management, I just think the hockey Hall of Fame is neat.
So far I've looked into the following stats:
- Wins
- Shutouts
- All-Star Games
- Stanley Cups
- Calders
- Jennings
- Vezinas and Vezina Votes
- Harts and Hart Votes
- Pearson/Lindsays
- Conn Smythes
- Goals Against Average versus goalies of their era
- Save % versus goalies of their era
- Playoff Wins
- Playoff GAA versus goalies of their era
- Player Save & versus goalies of their era
- Playoff Success not including Cups
- Number of seasons ended with Top 5 in Wins, GAA, Save%, and Shutouts
These are all NHL stats, though I would give additional points for success in other professional leagues, or internationally.
My current methodology is to grade all the statistics on a curve, essentially finding the best player for each stat, and giving each goalie beneath that a percentage based score. So for example, Martin Brodeur holds the Shutout record at 125 shutouts. Roberto Luongo just retired with 77 Shutouts, so that would net him a 0.616 rating in the Shutout category, whereas Brodeur would have a full 1.0 points in the Shutout category.
I calculate each of the above stats using this method, and then weight each stat with a multiplier based on how integral to the Hall of Fame induction I believe it would be. For example, I currently weigh Calders very low, as a single good rookie season wouldn't show nearly as much as say a Conn Smythe trophy.
I'm very interested to know what other stats people think are important to compare goalies of different eras. How people would rate the importance of the stats I have listed above in terms of the Hall of Fame. And if anyone sees any glaring issues with my methodology I would be very interested to hear more about it. I have no formal background in stats or data management, I just think the hockey Hall of Fame is neat.