What are some offensive-minded defenseman that flat out suck on D?

[M88K]

Klingberg. Can't believe this thread went this long without his name being thrown out.

Because he doesn't flat out suck on d?
He's not great but he's nowhere near the company of some of these names

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Torey Krug.

Still drives me nuts that we signed him and long term at that.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Barrie just became the first d-man in NHL history to lead the league in points while also not receiving a single Norris vote.

Unprecedented.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Jake Gardiner definitely deserves mention. I remember Carolina putting him in against my team at the end of the season and it was immediately OMG-please please please play that guy some more. Such a refreshing break from the rest of their D. I seldom notice opposing players that specifically, but he really stood out.

 

[ShonSaunders]

immediately thought of tobias bjornfot

How much of him have you seen? He’s played less than 40 games in the NHL.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Quinn Hughes didn't have a spectacular season defensively, but I wouldn't write him off just yet. He missed Tanev a lot this year, and looked lost defensively without him.

… so he sucks defensively unless he has a great DFD to clean up after him?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

they're just lazy wingers who don't want to forecheck

And play more minutes

 

[PavelBure10]

… so he sucks defensively unless he has a great DFD to clean up after him?

Partially, Tanev had his back when Hughes jumped up in the play. No one covered Hughes this year when he jumped up in the play, he is a offensive minded defenseman. The Canucks lost their best defensive defenseman in Tanev, the whole team looked lost without him. I was just stating that currently Hughes sucks at defense, but he is young, a great skater, and could learn the defensive aspect of the game better. Having a good stay at home defensive defenseman on the roster will help Hughes and the team immensely.

 

[buffalowing88]

Anyone remember playoff hat trick hero Andy Delmore?

I was so excited when the Sabres got him in 03.

I was so stupid.

 

[sharkhawk]

I know we’re mostly talking current day players, but if we go back 20 years Phil housley was the example. Burns is probably closest now

 

[JasonRoseEh]

Not nearly enough John Carlson in here.

 

[SEALBound]

I would say Mike Matheson fits into this category but maybe not to the extremes of some of the others mentioned.

 

[SomeDude]

… so he sucks defensively unless he has a great DFD to clean up after him?

I mean….that’s pretty much how offensive d-men work. They take chances to make plays and are usually at their best when paired with a safe and dependable partner who can minimize the damage when those risks back fire.

 

[Grifter3511]

Hughes, Karlsson, Fox

Lol. Have u even seen Fox play? If not, check out any single defensive advanced stat. Hes probably better at defense than he is at offense...maybe not..but its damn well close.

Lofl Fox...ridiculous

 

[aufheben]

Hughes, Karlsson, Fox

What happened to “Hughes is a tier above”?

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Anyone who does not remember him. Google Stefan empty net goal he was the D who screwed up

Or maybe Bergeron was so smart that he made it seem like he screwed up so Stefan would screw up and cement himself as the biggest draft bust.

Playing chess while everyone else was playing checkers

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I always felt Shattenkirk was a weird pick here and just kind of a meme. He's a bad turnover or two that just kind of turned into something people just say because they've heard it.

Since 2012, he ranks in the top 60 amongst all defensemen (3000 mins played) in goals against per 60. For somebody so atrocious defensively, he's been around for ten years and opponents can't score on him.

You know what the problem is with Shattenkirk? You can't show me one significant timeframe over the past decade where his even strength OFFENSE is above replacement level.

He has a good a shot and was really good at QBing the powerplay in his prime, but at 5v5 he's basically the opposite of what people say he is.

Hi bestie I missed you

 

[CartographerNo611]

Karlsson in his prime would play like the last 5 minutes of playoff games when defending a lead.


This is a great thread to filter people who don't know what they are talking about.

San Jose EK is bad aka the current version, it aint 2015 any more. He is slow to get back to his own after a turn over forcing a pass, avoids any and all physical contact, out of position or 2 seconds too slow, and timid with the poke check. EK65 is playing like a 3 million dollar PP specialist atm.

 

[Cas]

San Jose EK is bad aka the current version, it aint 2015 any more. He is slow to get back to his own after a turn over forcing a pass, avoids any and all physical contact, out of position or 2 seconds too slow, and timid with the poke check. EK65 is playing like a 3 million dollar PP specialist atm.

He's still better than Brent "Starfish" "What's Icing" Burns.

Karlsson was actually checking people this season, though his good period lasted only about five weeks. Outside of that he was either bad or unplayable awful.

 

[Agent Zub]

San Jose EK is bad aka the current version, it aint 2015 any more. He is slow to get back to his own after a turn over forcing a pass, avoids any and all physical contact, out of position or 2 seconds too slow, and timid with the poke check. EK65 is playing like a 3 million dollar PP specialist atm.

I was talking about his prime when his biomechanics still worked.

 

[chaosrevolver]

Marc-Andre Bergeron

Came here to see this.

One of the best point shots I've seen...but couldn't cut it any other way.

 

[BostonBruins11]

Most offensive D look really awkward (positioning wise) when they get pinned in their own zone. Like they're completely out of their element.

Ill take a solid 2-way D any day over a pure offensive defensemen for this reason.

 

[BostonBruins11]

Torey Krug.

Still drives me nuts that we signed him and long term at that.

BOS suddenly stopped giving away a ton of breakaway chances when he left. He probably lost as many games as he won for BOS. I do miss him on the PP though.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Bryan Berard is top 3 of all time.