What are some offensive-minded defenseman that flat out suck on D?

[amnesiac]

anyone say Krug yet?

 

[TOGuy14]

Gostisbehere times a million

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Gardiner, Jake

 

[Panda Bear]

He definitely doesn't flat out suck on D. He is one of the Flyers better d-men when it comes to defense. It might not be saying much but still.

nice quoting

 

[elitepete]

Suck on D..?

 

[Machinehead]

I always felt Shattenkirk was a weird pick here and just kind of a meme. He's a bad turnover or two that just kind of turned into something people just say because they've heard it.

Since 2012, he ranks in the top 60 amongst all defensemen (3000 mins played) in goals against per 60. For somebody so atrocious defensively, he's been around for ten years and opponents can't score on him.

You know what the problem is with Shattenkirk? You can't show me one significant timeframe over the past decade where his even strength OFFENSE is above replacement level.

He has a good a shot and was really good at QBing the powerplay in his prime, but at 5v5 he's basically the opposite of what people say he is.

 

[DFAC]

Hughes

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

I saw the Keith Yandle bat signal in the sky. And I thought, "what the hell?". Lead me right to this thread.

 

[Ghetty Green]

Q Hughes
Barrie

 

[RedLeader]

Ristolainen.

 

[DearDiary]

letang

Penguins best pker over the past decade can't defend?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Barrie and Hughes are the two most prominent I feel. Somebody made a good post explaining that Barrie/Shattenkirk/Karlsson were once upon a time passable and maybe even average defensively and I agree with that. I feel their defensive games fell off when their skating did as that was their number one tool to defending well.

With Hughes I’m guessing he just has a lot to learn.

 

[Voight]

Brent Burns

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Mike Green is the definition of offensive D that can't defend

 

[Tom Polakis]

I saw the Keith Yandle bat signal in the sky. And I thought, "what the hell?". Lead me right to this thread.

Yandle has always been bad defensively. He doesn't battle in corners, and doesn't clear out the crease, which begins to explain his ironman streak. He's also good for at least one ill-advised breakout pass per game.

 

[Atomos2]

Barrie should be number one.

HM: Rielly, Schultz, Hughes, Burns, Karlsson, Ghost

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

Yandle has always been bad defensively. He doesn't battle in corners, and doesn't clear out the crease, which begins to explain his ironman streak. He's also good for at least one ill-advised breakout pass per game.

Yeah, that's Yandle alright.

 

[PensandCaps]

letang

Yah the guy who has gotten some of the toughest ice time in the league and has succeeded very well over the past decade sucks at defense lol. One of the best PKers of the past decade in the NHL sucks at defense.

 

[Agent Zub]

I feel like a lot of these defenseman names are a bit unjust. Guys like Yandle, Barrie, Karlsson, Shattenkirk, etc. aren’t defensive stalwarts and are liabilities today, but in their prime they were passable defensively besides the occasional brain farts. They weren’t guys you want out to defend a lead the last two minutes of a game, but it wasn’t like it was a guaranteed scoring chance if the puck came their way either.

Karlsson in his prime would play like the last 5 minutes of playoff games when defending a lead.


This is a great thread to filter people who don't know what they are talking about.

 

[BlueDream]

Vince Dunn.

 

[summer tooth]

immediately thought of tobias bjornfot

 

[itsJG]

Suck on D

 

[Huokaus]

Mike Green is the definition of offensive D that can't defend

"Is" made me check - I was like "no way he's still playing". Retired last year.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

"Is" made me check - I was like "no way he's still playing". Retired last year.

He can still continue to be the definition even if he retired last year

 

[District99]

Barrie, he just finished 1st in points for Defence and half the Oilers fanbase wouldn't mind if he walked away