What’s up with Kadri?

[cgf]

His normal level is about 30 goals 60 points, when not strictly in a checking role.

Having your career year also be your normal level is impressive

 

[shortfuze]

Leafs fans told me he would score 30g 30assist on the third line lol

its 7 games man

 

[34]

Leafs fans told me he would score 30g 30assist on the third line lol

Kadri is coming off back to back 32 goal seasons.

And it is 8 games into the 82 game season. Breathe....

 

[shortfuze]

I don’t see an issue. Didn’t he score a goal tonight?

He had a career year and is regressing back to his norm is all.

2 years ago was a career year. also if he has had back 2 back 30-30 wouldnt that be the norm? players tend to trend up. which is what he as been doing.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

its 7 games man

8, just to be accurate.

 

[shortfuze]

8, just to be accurate.

Typo

 

[Kamiccolo]

Well, he has been snake bitten for sure. He also has had Brown and Lindholm as his linemates which are not very good offensive players.

[mod]

 

[LeafFever]

He's adjusting to his new role. I think he'll be fine. He's been unlucky but working hard. He really would not be the #3 C on any other team but the Pens.

 

[nabob]

2 years ago was a career year. also if he has had back 2 back 30-30 wouldnt that be the norm? players tend to trend up. which is what he as been doing.

The norm is him being a 17-20 goal 40-50 point player.

Players don’t continually trend up. Most peek for a couple of years and then regress back to a norm. Exactly what’s happening with Kadri.

 

[nabob]

He's adjusting to his new role. I think he'll be fine. He's been unlucky but working hard. He really would not be the #3 C on any other team but the Pens.

And the Oilers.

 

[shortfuze]

The norm is him being a 17-20 goal 40-50 point player.

Players don’t continually trend up. Most peek for a couple of years and then regress back to a norm. Exactly what’s happening with Kadri.

Why is 40-50 the norm but not 60?

 

[shortfuze]

The norm is him being a 17-20 goal 40-50 point player.

Players don’t continually trend up. Most peek for a couple of years and then regress back to a norm. Exactly what’s happening with Kadri.

I’m an idiot. I was thinking he had back to back 60 point seasons. Which isn’t he case.

 

[SniperOnTheWing]

He plays on first pp unit

Yeah but when the puck spends 95% of the time cycling between Marner-Rielly-Matthews you don't get many touches. Plus JT handles the net-front duty.

He's more of a spectator a lot of the time.

 

[BallardEra]

And the Oilers.

Caps too.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Matthews is scoring all the PP goals. Kadri probably flirts with 50 pts in his current role.

 

[joe dirte]

Having your career year also be your normal level is impressive

that's what he's scored the past 2 years. So, that's been his normal level.

I mean, his career 82 game point pace is 52.4. Career. So, what, you think his normal pace is a 30 point forward or something?

 

[joe dirte]

Matthews is scoring all the PP goals. Kadri probably flirts with 50 pts in his current role.

Probably pretty accurate. He's not going to score as much, because the offensive opportunities are going to be focused more on Tavares and Matthews.

But, yeah, Matthews will score close to 100 is my bet. Tavares gets 80+ too.

I'm fine with Kadri's point totals dropping as he plays the agitator/defensive forward role.

 

[cgf]

that's what he's scored the past 2 years. So, that's been his normal level.

I mean, his career 82 game point pace is 52.4. Career. So, what, you think his normal pace is a 30 point forward or something?

I'm fine with this logic as long as I get to call 100 points MacKinnon's new normal level...

 

[BAM]

I'm fine with this logic as long as I get to call 100 points MacKinnon's new normal level...

1. Mackinnon has never hit 100 points
2. Mackinnon's average over the last 2 years is 75 points not 100

 

[sparxx87]

He got married this offseason.

RIP Naz.

 

[Breakers]

I thought he was a number 1 center????????

 

[cgf]

1. Mackinnon has never hit 100 points
2. Mackinnon's average over the last 2 years is 75 points not 100

If we’re playing the recency-bias game then MacK came closer to 100 points last season than kadri did to 60...

 

[sparxx87]

I thought he was a number 1 center????????

Regardless of how you’d classify him, is 7 games enough to make any sort of determination?

If a players stock can’t rise in 7 games, why can it drop during the same time period.

 

[BAM]

If we’re playing the recency-bias game then MacK came closer to 100 points last season than kadri did to 60...

1. The guy you were responding to used 2 years for an average and then career average. Both cases Mackinnon does not hit 100 points
2. Mackinnon's career average is 68 points a season.

 

[joe dirte]

I'm fine with this logic as long as I get to call 100 points MacKinnon's new normal level...

uhh, if he can go two years in a row, and show it's not a one off, then sure, I'd buy into him much more. As of now, he's averaged 60 points for most of his career, until last year.

It certainly is a good sign, and he had one hell of a year last year. But there is a big difference between 2 years, and one, when you've got a long track record that says differently.

Again, Kadri's point per game average is 52.5 points. It's then he gets 30+ goals 60ish points TWO seasons in a row. for an increase on his career pace of a whopping 7.5 points, or 15%. Much more believable than someone who averages very similar points to Kadri for 5 seasons, and then doubles those totals, ONCE.

so yeah, I'd like to see see Mackinnon show it's not a ONE off. I don't think there is much doubt he's taken a step forward, but let's see the dust settle, and see just how much.