Werenski or McAvoy?

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Werenski or McAvoy?

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  1. Palm Tree

    Palm Tree Constant Nostalgiac. Die-hard CBJ fan.

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    Both extreme studs on the blue line for their respective teams. Who would you rather have moving forward? And why?

    Career numbers:

    McAvoy —

    8 goals.
    30 assists.
    38 points. ( 0.54 ppg )
    +21.
    70 games.

    Werenski —

    29 goals.
    63 assists.
    92 points. ( 0.56 ppg )
    +36.
    165 games.
     
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    DieTomi Auston "50 Goals" Matthews

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    McAvoy but it's close
     
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    McAvoy.
    Now if you asked about Provorov I'd have to vote for him.
     
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    You could probably count on one hand the people I'd trade McAvoy for (factoring in age and organizational needs). Werenski is an absolute stud, but hes not on that list.
     
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    This is why I think McAvoy is overrated, even while being really good.

    Players with similar or greater value, factoring in age, contract status (McAvoy likely to get ~7-8M+ next year), projected ability, etc. off the top of my head:

    McDavid
    MacKinnon
    Matthews
    Hall
    Scheifele
    Jones
    Seguin
    Eichel
    Barkov
    Barzal
    Provorov
    Marner
    Point
    Forsberg
    Dahlin
    Laine
    Aho
    Pettersson
    Gaudreau
    Svechnikov
    Heiskanen
    Rantanen
    Dubois
    Hischier
    Keller
    M. Tkachuk
    Werenski
    Chabot

    Additionally, all of...

    Crosby
    Malkin
    Karlsson
    Burns
    P. Kane
    Ovechkin
    Kucherov
    Doughty
    Pietrangelo
    Marchand
    Bergeron
    Kopitar
    Benn
    Josi
    Subban
    Ellis
    Giroux
    Hedman
    Tarasenko
    Kuznetsov
    + more

    ...may also have more or equivalent value even as older players.

    This is why I laugh whenever people purport that McAvoy is a top-5 asset in the NHL. If you wouldn’t trade him for some of these players, that’s fine, but I think the opposite is also likely true for fans of the other teams. He isn’t some surefire future Norris winner.
     
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    .....I said "players I'd trade McAvoy for," not "hes a top five asset in the NHL." The way the Bruins are structured now they need young high end defensemen to usher in the post-Chara days. They also need young centers, but not at the expense of McAvoy. After McAvoy and Carlo they have nothing on the right side, but they're loaded on the left side in the minors (and in the NHL with Krug and Grizz). Wings are fine for now with Pasta, Marchand and Debrusk plus Heinen/Donato coming along. Theres no need to trade McAvoy ( an organizational weakness) for a wing (except for a player like Kuch).

    I bolded players I'd trade McAvoy for right now if they were offered. They're all under 30 for obvious reasons except for Crosby. Some players are currently BETTER than McAvoy right now, like Doughty, but to me the player McAvoy is traded for needs to be in their early to mid 20s, a proven top pairing D man, or a franchise altering forward (in their early to mid twenties, except for some exceptions).

    With the exception of McDavid/Matthews/Eichel/Mackinnon I think McAvoy has as high an upside as anyone in your "similar age" category. Seth Jones is a star so I'd make that deal in a heartbeat.

    The veteran list is where I suspect I'll get the most criticism, but why would I trade a young top pairing D man for a 30+ year old forward on inflated contracts? Doesn't seem very prudent from a organizational perspective.

    I count 10-15 players I'd potentially trade McAvoy for. So 2-3 hands worth of players. After thinking some more about it maybe I'd add more/take people off of that list.
     
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    Close but Werenski for me.
     

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