Confirmed with Link: Wennberg on waivers for purpose of buyout

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Posting this just in deference to Wennberg, since I posted the Wilson hit. This is not any sort of suggestion this is what we'll be missing, just his last hurrah.

 

[koteka]

I think it is a mistake. I always think buyouts are a mistake. I didn’t like buying out Hartnell or Tyutin. You have to look at the bigger picture than just one contract.

If I am another GM, I’d be pointing out which teams use buyouts when talking to free agents. I’d question the loyalty of Columbus management, and I’d point out that if you take a cheap shot and get a bad concussion, Columbus will use any means necessary to get rid of your contract. I’d be using it if I was trying to offer sheet PLD. Sign a contract with us because we treat players better than Columbus.

Wennberg is overpaid, but $2 million overpaid, not $4 or $5 million overpaid. Jones is $3.5 million underpaid. Some guys are underpaid and some guys are overpaid. It is what it is. You hope in balance your team does not consistently overpay like Toronto.

I hope he goes to the western conference, and I hope he wins a cup.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

I think it is a mistake. I always think buyouts are a mistake. I didn’t like buying out Hartnell or Tyutin. You have to look at the bigger picture than just one contract.

If I am another GM, I’d be pointing out which teams use buyouts when talking to free agents. I’d question the loyalty of Columbus management, and I’d point out that if you take a cheap shot and get a bad concussion, Columbus will use any means necessary to get rid of your contract. I’d be using it if I was trying to offer sheet PLD. Sign a contract with us because we treat players better than Columbus.

Wennberg is overpaid, but $2 million overpaid, not $4 or $5 million overpaid. Jones is $3.5 million underpaid. Some guys are underpaid and some guys are overpaid. It is what it is. You hope in balance your team does not consistently overpay like Toronto.

I hope he goes to the western conference, and I hope he wins a cup.

The NFL has non-guaranteed contracts and they cut people all the time. Doesn't seem to change anything in regards to free agent signings there.

 

[EDM]

I called this 3 years ago when I pointed out how the league had figured out he was a one trick pony

 

[Monk]

I called this 3 years ago when I pointed out how the league had figured out he was a one trick pony

That's not my recollection at all. I'm pretty sure you've been the one advocating giving him more chances all along.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I called this 3 years ago when I pointed out how the league had figured out he was a one trick pony

Three years ago you predicted that he'd be bought out in 2020?

 

[koteka]

The NFL has non-guaranteed contracts and they cut people all the time. Doesn't seem to change anything in regards to free agent signings there.

Everybody does in it the NFL. Not everyone does it in the NHL. And certain teams do it way more often than the others.

I looked at all buyouts since 2014 on Cap Friendly Buyout History - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

25 teams have made 84 buyouts.

Chicago, Washington, St. Louis, the Islanders, and Vegas haven’t bought anyone out. Vegas is a new team, so it makes sense they haven’t. Some teams have done a lot of buy outs. Calgary and Nashville lead the way with 6 buy outs, the Devils and the Rangers have had 5 buy outs, and Columbus, Detroit, Edmonton, and Florida have 4.

Maybe less attractive Canadian cities like the Calgary and Edmonton plus non traditional hockey markets like a Columbus, Florida, and Nashville are forced to overpay, and thus more apt to use buyouts. But Winnipeg has only done 1 buyout. St. Louis hasn’t done any.

I stand by what I said early. And if I were an agent, I would advise my clients to especially avoid Calgary and Nashville.

BTW, the Columbus buyouts are Wennberg, Tyutin, Hartnell, and Boll.

 

[CharlotteJacket]

Just a quick question. What's Wennberg all about? Is he a solid 3C? Is he good defensively? What's his playstyle like? I'm just curious.

Wennberg's version of a hat trick was scoring three goals in a season.

 

[Long Live Lyle]

Everybody does in it the NFL. Not everyone does it in the NHL. And certain teams do it way more often than the others.

I looked at all buyouts since 2014 on Cap Friendly Buyout History - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

25 teams have made 84 buyouts.

Chicago, Washington, St. Louis, the Islanders, and Vegas haven’t bought anyone out. Vegas is a new team, so it makes sense they haven’t. Some teams have done a lot of buy outs. Calgary and Nashville lead the way with 6 buy outs, the Devils and the Rangers have had 5 buy outs, and Columbus, Detroit, Edmonton, and Florida have 4.

Maybe less attractive Canadian cities like the Calgary and Edmonton plus non traditional hockey markets like a Columbus, Florida, and Nashville are forced to overpay, and thus more apt to use buyouts. But Winnipeg has only done 1 buyout. St. Louis hasn’t done any.

I stand by what I said early. And if I were an agent, I would advise my clients to especially avoid Calgary and Nashville.

BTW, the Columbus buyouts are Wennberg, Tyutin, Hartnell, and Boll.

I see what you're saying. I don't think it's really a big deal. I mean, Tyutin and Boll are back with the organization, after all.

 

[koteka]

I see what you're saying. I don't think it's really a big deal. I mean, Tyutin and Boll are back with the organization, after all.

Columbus Blue Jackets Staff Directory

I remember that both were hired by the Jackets, but Tyutin doesn’t appear here. I know he is coaching the 2007 AAA Blue Jackets. Boll is on the list, but how much of a job is it? I know he does things at the Battery.

Anyway, a free agent isn’t going to research what happened with the guys that got bought out.

 

[JacketsFanWest]

Sad to see Wennis go.

 

[thebus88]

I personally have gotten TONS of hate over many years regarding my negative opinions on Johansen and Wennberg.

NEITHER guy played the type of game I (or anybody should) want or like from my centers, yet we had SO MANY CBJ fans handing the reigns over to both guys for our top 6 center spots for the foreseeable future.

It wasn’t just the way things were said about Wennberg that were shut down and chastised by large groups of Wennberg lovers. His 1 good statistical season was supposedly “proof” that ANYTHING negative was categorized as trolling, because you couldn’t possibly argue the “facts” and “numbers”. We’ll act like this never happened to some posters though.

Jarmo should have made the decision to move each guy sooner. How about all those “Wennberg will never be bought out” comments made in the past??

 

[thebus88]

ELITE





Haha sorry, I’m done. And right, again.

 

[EDM]

Three years ago I predicted he would up being a pile of dung.

 

[EDM]

Hence the double entendre name "pooh"

 

[koteka]

Here is a good read.

Confirmed with Link: - Hartnell Bought Out

Remember when we were going to go for it and get Duchene or Kovalchuk or Thornton or some other big name with the big savings from buying out Hartnell? And then we didn’t?

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

What a bad contract and failure to fulfill potential. Good riddance.

 

[CharlotteJacket]

This was a good move by Jarmo to buy out Wennberg. His first name with a lot of us over the years became "Hopefully" and it just never came to fruition. Wennberg was an enigma. We all thought after his 59 point third season that we finally had our 1C for the next decade and could go work on another part of the team. But that fourth year, where Wild Bill was selected by Vegas in the expansion lottery and who knows what else, Wennberg fell off a cliff production wise and never recovered. After his first bad year, Jarmo gave him that very generous contract hoping it would motivate him to return back to his potential, but it never happened. Concussions, both in normal play and the cheap shot by Wilson further hampered his playing. The fact Jarmo bought out Wennberg and couldn't trade him also tells us of his market demand. I, like everyone else on this board hold no animus towards him and wanted him to be successful, but I wouldn't be surprised if he signs with a Euro league for a couple million a year and plays out his career over there.

 

[thebus88]

We all thought after his 59 point third season that we finally had our 1C for the next decade and could go work on another part of the team.

Speak for yourself.

Most of the people who felt that way and were vocal about it don’t even admit it.

They say that they thought he could be the 1C not that he was.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

delete

 

[Cyclones Rock]

A year too late. But better late than never.

The easiest decision Jarmo will ever make. Saving the team $10.7 million and getting rid of the soft, non shooter.

Oh, but his Elite defensive play

 

[MoeBartoli]

Speak for yourself.

Most of the people who felt that way and were vocal about it don’t even admit it.

They say that they thought he could be the 1C not that he was.

I was with you in that I never saw him as a 1C.....but I never saw him take a plunge to the depths he fell.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I get people didn't like him, and there's valid reasons not to, but jesus christ the way people talk about him in this thread is so petty and ridiculous. You guys are acting like he didn't try.

Regardless, its the right move. It made way too much sense financially and going forward for both parties. I think he'd fit perfectly on a team with zero expectations as their 3rd line center. I hope he rekindles the offensive potentially he has while maintaining his smart defensive play. More than likely though, he'll just be a defensive specialist making around 2 million per season. And that's okay.

Thanks for your contributions and good luck Wenny. Although he is my username, he was never my favorite player. I thought he would be, which is why I picked it, but it never came to be. With that said, I did appreciate his style of play from time to time, and kept the name because there was really no reason to change it. But, now there is. New username inbound...

 

[Cyclones Rock]

I get people didn't like him, and there's valid reasons not to, but jesus christ the way people talk about him in this thread is so petty and ridiculous. You guys are acting like he didn't try.

Regardless, its the right move. It made way too much sense financially and going forward for both parties. I think he'd fit perfectly on a team with zero expectations as their 3rd line center. I hope he rekindles the offensive potentially he has while maintaining his smart defensive play. More than likely though, he'll just be a defensive specialist making around 2 million per season. And that's okay.

Thanks for your contributions and good luck Wenny. Although he is my username, he was never my favorite player. I thought he would be, which is why I picked it, but it never came to be. With that said, I did appreciate his style of play from time to time, and kept the name because there was really no reason to change it. But, now there is. New username inbound...

I was being nice. I deleted my original post

 

[MoeBartoli]

Wennberg signed by Florida per Sirius XM. One year 2.25M