Post-Game Talk (GBU): Welcome to Buffalo, Jack! [Mod Warning: Post #101]

Der Jaeger · May 22, 2015

Dubi Doo said:
It's good to hear that Murray has no intentions of trading the 2nd overall pick. It's obvious he shouldn't have any intentions of trading that pick, but to hear him say that eases my mind.

Not trading down. Not trading the pick. Not calling Chiarelli. Eichel exceeded his expectations at the Worlds.

:handclap:

BakedBuffalo · May 22, 2015

Der Jaeger said:
Not trading down. Not trading the pick. Not calling Chiarelli. Eichel exceeded his expectations at the Worlds.

Logically, I knew it would never happen, but every once in awhile I'd have an irrational thought about us picking Strome over Eichel, haha. Nightmare level **** :laugh:

Der Jaeger · May 23, 2015

BakedBuffalo said:
Logically, I knew it would never happen, but every once in awhile I'd have an irrational thought about us picking Strome over Eichel, haha. Nightmare level ****

It's all good. I toy around with the thought of offering Edmonton a Lindros deal:

Forsberg - 2nd overall
Ricci - Kane
Future 1st - NYI 1st 2015
Future 1st - 2016 1st
Duchesne - Bogosian
Huffman - Weber
Hextall - ? (31st overall, 2017 1st)

Then I come back to reality........

phosphene* · May 23, 2015

Der Jaeger said:
It's all good. I toy around with the thought of offering Edmonton a Lindros deal:

Forsberg - 2nd overall
Ricci - Kane
Future 1st - NYI 1st 2015
Future 1st - 2016 1st
Duchesne - Bogosian
Huffman - Weber
Hextall - ? (31st overall, 2017 1st)

Then I come back to reality........

Funny thing is, everyone acts like the gap between McDavid and Eichel will result is a significant point disparity, as if Jack will top out as 70 point scorer while McDavid lights the league up. Despite Lindros being a freak of nature in every sense of the word, Forsberg was about on par. It's a shame that both were plagued by injuries throughout their career. At least Forsberg produced at a decent rate until the end of his career.

Der Jaeger · May 23, 2015

phosphene said:
Funny thing is, everyone acts like the gap between McDavid and Eichel will result is a significant point disparity, as if Jack will top out as 70 point scorer while McDavid lights the league up. Despite Lindros being a freak of nature in every sense of the word, Forsberg was about on par. It's a shame that both were plagued by injuries throughout their career. At least Forsberg produced at a decent rate until the end of his career.

No way Philly ever sees it ahead of time, but Forsberg was enough for Lindros. That's what makes me gunshot about trading up, though it's fun to talk/think about.

TheMistyStranger · May 23, 2015

vcv said:
The League ran by the Sabres scout? Where did you hear that?

edit: Don't see him: http://www.buffalohockeyleague.com/2014-rosters/

I'd love to see some of these games :laugh:

Cloud City #91 - Ryan Miller

Is he going to be a skater? :laugh:

26CornerBlitz · May 26, 2015

Anyone else heard this?

Paxon · May 26, 2015

26CornerBlitz said:
Anyone else heard this?

I'd be mildly surprised because he said he was going to wait until after the draft to make a decision, which I think is smart even if it's a foregone conclusion. Once he hires an agent he effectively makes his decision to go pro. I have some doubts here. You don't need an agent until you have an NHL team to negotiate with, outside of marketing deals which he could land right now if he wanted to forego his NCAA eligibility. That's really all that would make sense with getting a formal agent right now.

BuiltTagonTough · May 26, 2015

26CornerBlitz said:
Anyone else heard this?

I know he has/had a family consultant. But that was to help him pick a college. It's Schopp. Id take it with a grain of salt. Many grains.

26CornerBlitz · May 26, 2015

BuiltTagonTough said:
I know he has/had a family consultant. But that was to help him pick a college. It's Schopp. Id take it with a grain of salt. Many grains.

That's exactly why I posed the question. :laugh:

sabrebuild · May 26, 2015

26CornerBlitz said:
That's exactly why I posed the question.

I would be surprised if shopping knew the difference in nhl terms of an agent and a family consultant.

That type of detail is often too much for him.

Beerz · May 26, 2015

Paxon said:
I'd be mildly surprised because he said he was going to wait until after the draft to make a decision, which I think is smart even if it's a foregone conclusion. Once he hires an agent he effectively makes his decision to go pro. I have some doubts here. You don't need an agent until you have an NHL team to negotiate with, outside of marketing deals which he could land right now if he wanted to forego his NCAA eligibility. That's really all that would make sense with getting a formal agent right now.

They also float you loans so you can have a dapper suit and some bling at to wear at the draft.. :naughty:

TalkingProuder · May 26, 2015

Beerz said:
They also float you loans so you can have a dapper suit and some bling at to wear at the draft..

He should just call up Evander Kane. I'm sure he has a nice suit and 8,000 pair of shoes that Jack, his new center, can borrow.

Mit Yarrum · May 26, 2015

A fun game would be trying to figure out who Schopp's source is. Local bartender? Other angry guy at kids softball game? Harrington? (Listed in order of credibility)

sabres4ever · May 27, 2015

Jack Eichel ready for NHL says college coach

Jim Bob · May 27, 2015

BuiltTagonTough said:
I know he has/had a family consultant. But that was to help him pick a college. It's Schopp. Id take it with a grain of salt. Many grains.

"Family advisor" is the NC$$ codeword for agent.

All high level NC$$ players have an agent that gives advice pro bono to comply to NC$$ rules with an understanding that the player will sign with the "family advisor" once they turn pro.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/03/17_saint_john_gm_eichel_will.php

Eichel's "family advisor" is Peter Fish.

http://www.globalhockey.net/about.php

http://www.nhlpa.com/inside-nhlpa/certified-player-agents/find-an-agent?ln=F

sabres4ever · May 27, 2015

WhoIsJimBob said:
"Family advisor" is the NC$$ codeword for agent.

All high level NC$$ players have an agent that gives advice pro bono to comply to NC$$ rules with an understanding that the player will sign with the "family advisor" once they turn pro.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/03/17_saint_john_gm_eichel_will.php

Eichel's "family advisor" is Peter Fish.

http://www.globalhockey.net/about.php

http://www.nhlpa.com/inside-nhlpa/certified-player-agents/find-an-agent?ln=F

Not questioning the validity of that, but where did you find out that Fish is his family advisor?

Ethan Edwards · May 27, 2015

Mit Yarrum said:
A fun game would be trying to figure out who Schopp's source is. Local bartender? Other angry guy at kids softball game? Harrington? (Listed in order of credibility)

That's excellent!

TehDoak · May 27, 2015

sabres4ever said:
Not questioning the validity of that, but where did you find out that Fish is his family advisor?

Read the first link he posted.

While in the region, he reached out to Eichel's family via telephone and met with Eichel's family advisor, Peter Fish.

sabres4ever · May 27, 2015

TehDoak said:
Read the first link he posted.

thanks, I missed that obviously.

Seems like he'd be leaning towards going pro. Hope so, would love to see what he can do in 4 months.

Jim Bob · May 27, 2015

sabres4ever said:
thanks, I missed that obviously.

Seems like he'd be leaning towards going pro. Hope so, would love to see what he can do in 4 months.

Peter Fish was his "family advisor" last summer when Jack was deciding between BU and playing in the Q this past season.

So, his advising Eichel isn't a sign of him leaning one way or the other.

I would be surprised if Eichel went back to BU based on how this past season went and how he did at the WCs.

But, it won't be a bad thing if he does.

jBuds · May 27, 2015

sabres4ever said:
Not questioning the validity of that, but where did you find out that Fish is his family advisor?

It's also in the article in THN draft preview. Tells the story about how his dad dropped him at Applebee's alone to meet with these advisors and decide for himself who he wants. It was Fish.

He also grew up a BC fan, but picked BU as the better fit for him despite hating the Terriers.

Good article.

26CornerBlitz · May 28, 2015

Reddawg · May 28, 2015

WhoIsJimBob said:
I would be surprised if Eichel went back to BU based on how this past season went and how he did at the WCs.

But, it won't be a bad thing if he does.

I'd be fine with it, gives us an easy excuse to season Samson in the AHL for a full season of pro hockey and let them both make the jump together in 2016-17.

Der Jaeger · May 28, 2015

Reddawg said:
I'd be fine with it, gives us an easy excuse to season Samson in the AHL for a full season of pro hockey and let them both make the jump together in 2016-17.

I would not mind this at all. Bring in some UFAs, make some trades. Give Grigorenko and Hodgson playing time and a chance to improve, either for a future on the team or increased trade value.

Kane - Girgensons - Hodgson
Moulson - Larsson - Ennis
Foligno - Grigorenko - Gionta

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