Pre-Game Talk: Week of McJesus, O'Money & cgf's Russian lover (Oilers, Blues, Stars)

[S E P H]

Are you saying he has any control of his height??

Not at all, but that the practices, stretches, and the overall nature in basketball with a repetitive nature of constantly practicing and playing eventually makes people tall. There is no coincidence that the average height in basketball is 6'6" (I believe) and the average height as a jockey is 5'6". I say there are outside influences of the sport/activity which absolutely changes the body's adaption and results in tall and short people during the puberty years. So in a way, Lebron would not have been 6'8" if he went the tennis route - still would be fairly tall around 6'2" to 6'5" probably.

 

[Foppberg]

Not at all, but that the practices, stretches, and the overall nature in basketball with a repetitive nature of constantly practicing and playing eventually makes people tall. There is no coincidence that the average height in basketball is 6'6" (I believe) and the average height as a jockey is 5'6". I say there are outside influences of the sport/activity which absolutely changes the body's adaption and results in tall and short people during the puberty years. So in a way, Lebron would not have been 6'8" if he went the tennis route - still would be fairly tall around 6'2" to 6'5" probably.

Do you have anything to back this up? Lol, or just random spit take?

 

[S E P H]

Do you have anything to back this up? Lol, or just random spit take?

https://www.researchgate.net/profil...-performance-in-junior-basketball-players.pdf
How much of human height is genetic and how much is due to nutrition?
http://www.arthros.com.br/pdf/BALISTICO_JSCR06.pdf

60% to 85% of height is determined by genetics, but with the constant jumping, short sprints, and the athletic nature needed to play the sport creates a toll on the bones to grow and increase over time. For the record I am not saying that a dude who's 70% genetic make up to grow only to 5'7"...will randomly make him grow to 6'6" simply because he plays basketball his entire life. However, if he does play basketball his entire life, then it isn't impossible to say he grew to 5'11" because of it. However, there are also articles out there that say that the best draft eligible prospects are ones who are simply taller than the rest, especially in high-school and at college so they're better players simply because they're taller than the average height. Or it could be a combination of both, however another argument I have is that there is some body adaptable to the sport or activity that people conduct in. For example, have you seen a basketballers hand compared to pros of other sports? I know a dude who is 6'3", but he played basketball during his entire youth throughout high-school and his hand is like two times the size of mine (where I played hockey throughout my entire youth and I can say I am more flexible than him since I am a goaler).

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Is it just me or does Connor McDavid look like a (fully grown) little person?

Thanks for ruining McDavid for me.

 

[Foppberg]

Does Playing Basketball Make You Taller? - BuildYourDreamBody
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...-performance-in-junior-basketball-players.pdf
How much of human height is genetic and how much is due to nutrition?
http://www.arthros.com.br/pdf/BALISTICO_JSCR06.pdf

60% to 85% of height is determined by genetics, but with the constant jumping, short sprints, and the athletic nature needed to play the sport creates a toll on the bones to grow and increase over time. For the record I am not saying that a dude who's 70% genetic make up to grow only to 5'7"...will randomly make him grow to 6'6" simply because he plays basketball his entire life. However, if he does play basketball his entire life, then it isn't impossible to say he grew to 5'11" because of it. However, there are also articles out there that say that the best draft eligible prospects are ones who are simply taller than the rest, especially in high-school and at college so they're better players simply because they're taller than the average height. Or it could be a combination of both, however another argument I have is that there is some body adaptable to the sport or activity that people conduct in. For example, have you seen a basketballers hand compared to pros of other sports? I know a dude who is 6'3", but he played basketball during his entire youth throughout high-school and his hand is like two times the size of mine (where I played hockey throughout my entire youth and I can say I am more flexible than him since I am a goaler).

Interesting... So what I've learned is I should have played basketball through my school years.

 

[S E P H]

Interesting... So what I've learned is I should have played basketball through my school years.

If you read a lot of Q&A's in regards to NHL players, they get asked a lot about how to make the NHL and majority of the answers you see are "play multiple sports". Luongo for example did not only play hockey, I believe he also excelled at futball and tennis along with the Sedins'. I know that Hischer and Nino were very accomplished tennis players due to the Federer effect as well. Personally, there is a combination between the sports adaption affecting the body and that there is also a bottleneck effect when you're reaching higher levels of the sport. Majority of goalers are not 5'11" because 6'4" is better for the sport, however, you also don't see 6'4" goalers who have the flexibility of sumo wrestlers - both are built differently due to the activity.

 

[AvsMakar08]

Lauren looks good tonight. Edit, ups, wrong thread.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Well, I think we're talking about fictional scenarios here. If Lebron ever gone through the tennis route as a kid, he wouldn't need to reach his 6'8" height as he is in basketball. My main argument is that how Lebron is, he is clearly behind at least Federer in terms of overall ability - tennis is harder to play than basketball (fact). Again jumping to consistently get layups at his athletic nature requires practice, but isn't that hard of an aspect for the entire general population to do. I have no problem labeling him one of the best or the best athletic player ever, but it's hard to pinpoint how much technical/talent he has since basketball as a natural sport requires a ton of athleticism and not a ton of talent.


Absolutely yes he could because players from different sports have switched to baseball and have hit major league pitches - Jordan and Tebow. Hell even pylon Beauchemin hit a freakin' homerun - you cannot say the same thing about Mike Trout sniping on an NHL goaler. Neither of them were good, true, but baseball is one sport where other major athletes can come in and at least be passable. That's what lowers baseball for me, even though the mentality between the pitcher and batter is probably the toughest event in activities'.

You’re wrong. Jordan never hit major league pitching because he never played in the majors. Tebow hasn’t made it to the majors either.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

I was sure this thread was about hockey. Must have been mistaken.

 

[S E P H]

You’re wrong. Jordan never hit major league pitching because he never played in the majors. Tebow hasn’t made it to the majors either.

Yeah, you're right about Jordan, but not my fault since the White Sox's minor league club has the same exact logo almost.

 

[Balthazar]

LeBron James isn't just the most physically gifted athlete in the NBA; he's the smartest. Not in terms of book smarts like our HAAAAAHVAAAAD boy Kerfoot, but the man is a pure basketball genius.

To me, he's the greatest athlete of all time.

Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt say hello.

 

[Murzu]

Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt say hello.

So true. Phelps might be the answer here.

 

[UncleRisto]

I know what "laying cable" means to me and my old high school buddies, but I didn't know anyone could make a career out of it.

Maybe if you broke the world record.

 

[dahrougem2]

Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt say hello.

And LeBron James says hello back to them from his position at the top.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Low key Tim Tebow is also an all time athlete.

 

[Balthazar]

And LeBron James says hello back to them from his position at the top.

lol

 

[Foppberg]

LeBron is great, but best athlete ever? Yeah....no.

 

[dahrougem2]

LeBron is great, but best athlete ever? Yeah....no.

How? I get the arguments for guys like Bolt and Phelps, but just because they partake in individual sports compared to a team sport doesn't give them the edge at all. It just means they play a different sport.

I've yet to see another athlete at 6'8 and 275 lbs do the things this man can do athletically.

 

[SaltySkywalker]

Not at all, but that the practices, stretches, and the overall nature in basketball with a repetitive nature of constantly practicing and playing eventually makes people tall. There is no coincidence that the average height in basketball is 6'6" (I believe) and the average height as a jockey is 5'6". I say there are outside influences of the sport/activity which absolutely changes the body's adaption and results in tall and short people during the puberty years. So in a way, Lebron would not have been 6'8" if he went the tennis route - still would be fairly tall around 6'2" to 6'5" probably.

Interesting. This could certainly be a thing but I think the differences would be negligible. I highly doubt Lebron would be 5"s shorter if he had gone the tennis route. No, there is no coincidence that basketball players are tall and jokeys short, but I believe that's because the sport eventually weeds players out sans the exceptions. I wonder how many players out there are much more talented than NBA players but simply could not cut it because of their size.

 

[SaltySkywalker]

Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt say hello.

Michael Phelps is straight Kevin Costner from Waterworld.

 

[The Abusement Park]

How? I get the arguments for guys like Bolt and Phelps, but just because they partake in individual sports compared to a team sport doesn't give them the edge at all. It just means they play a different sport.

I've yet to see another athlete at 6'8 and 275 lbs do the things this man can do athletically.

Men his size should be as fast and agile as he is. It’s ludicrous.

 

[Avs_19]

LeBron James isn't just the most physically gifted athlete in the NBA; he's the smartest. Not in terms of book smarts like our HAAAAAHVAAAAD boy Kerfoot, but the man is a pure basketball genius.

To me, he's the greatest athlete of all time.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Michael Phelps is straight Kevin Costner from Waterworld.

I always thought he was more Slater from Dazed and Confused.

 

[Foppberg]

How? I get the arguments for guys like Bolt and Phelps, but just because they partake in individual sports compared to a team sport doesn't give them the edge at all. It just means they play a different sport.

I've yet to see another athlete at 6'8 and 275 lbs do the things this man can do athletically.

Depends on what you mean by 'athlete'. If you mean the best physical specimen sports has ever seen... I'd still say Bo was better.

Not to mention guys like Sanders, Jordan, Phelps, etc. There's just way too many guys to say who's the absolute best.

 

[dahrougem2]

Men his size should be as fast and agile as he is. It’s ludicrous.

So then why isn't almost every single offensive lineman in the NFL as fast and agile as he is?