IPB put up a new article? Thanks for letting me know - I was going to check in a few weeks.According to an article on Point Blank: Clutter is a d-man and the Isles play in the NFL.
You make it sound like kids start rooting for the Jets, Isles, Mets to piss off their fathers who root for the older, “established” teams. If you grew up in the 1970s like I did, maybe that would be an accurate view. Nowadays I’m not so sure. I’m an Islanders, Mets and Giants fan. Plenty of people around here root for teams in Group A and Group B. I think the Devils fall into the category of a NY Metro area team who doesn’t market themselves in NYC and has a robust fan base largely in New Jersey.Random question here, as an outsider i've always viewed NYC sports teams as two groups and felt like fans latched on to one or the other as a whole without a lot of mixing and matching.
Group 1 is the mainstream group: Yankees, Giants, Knicks, Rangers
Group 2 is the contrarian group: Mets, Jets, Nets, Islanders
is this a fair assessment, or have I just been making this up in my head my whole life?
Also how do the Devils fit into the big picture, and what are the college sports teams that an individual might root for when they live in NYC?
Random question here, as an outsider i've always viewed NYC sports teams as two groups and felt like fans latched on to one or the other as a whole without a lot of mixing and matching.
Group 1 is the mainstream group: Yankees, Giants, Knicks, Rangers
Group 2 is the contrarian group: Mets, Jets, Nets, Islanders
is this a fair assessment, or have I just been making this up in my head my whole life?
Also how do the Devils fit into the big picture, and what are the college sports teams that an individual might root for when they live in NYC?
Only thing that’s off is nets. Basically everyone is a Knicks fan
It's a big generalization but many people do fall into one of those two categories. Although obviously there's a lot of overlap too.I assume due to being the New Jersey Nets for so long?
I appreciate the replies, it's obviously something I had built a preconception around many years ago as a young sports fan and never bothered to verify or challenge.
Random question here, as an outsider i've always viewed NYC sports teams as two groups and felt like fans latched on to one or the other as a whole without a lot of mixing and matching.
Group 1 is the mainstream group: Yankees, Giants, Knicks, Rangers
Group 2 is the contrarian group: Mets, Jets, Nets, Islanders
is this a fair assessment, or have I just been making this up in my head my whole life?
Also how do the Devils fit into the big picture, and what are the college sports teams that an individual might root for when they live in NYC?
I'm not much of a basketball fan as I never really had a team growing up (I don't hate the Knicks but was never a big fan) but when the Nets moved to Brooklyn, I assumed we'd (we meaning my sons and me) start rooting for the Nets. Never happened. I gave it a couple of half azzed tries but they really didn't take. I don't know of anyone who jumped on the Nets bandwagon when they moved. I do know some folks, however, who did jump on the Islanders wagon once they moved to Brooklyn. People living in Manhattan who - for whatever reason - were not Rags fans but were otherwise sports or hockey fans who were open to a new team.Only thing that’s off is nets. Basically everyone is a Knicks fan
I assume due to being the New Jersey Nets for so long?
I appreciate the replies, it's obviously something I had built a preconception around many years ago as a young sports fan and never bothered to verify or challenge.
ASide from St Johns, NYC doesn’t have big time college basketball and never had a big time college football program. As you said, Syracuse would be the closest geographically (or Rutgers if you can call them big time). Army gets a decent following but they aren’t a powerhouse by any means.If I could make a generalization about NYC college teams it would most likely be Syracuse outside of St. John's as MJF mentioned.
Cuse pushes hard to be "New York's College Team" and with the lack of opposition (Rutgers, Hofstra, Stony Brook??) most gravitate to the Orange if their alma mater doesn't have a big-time basketball or football team.
ASide from St Johns, NYC doesn’t have big time college basketball and never had a big time college football program. As you said, Syracuse would be the closest geographically (or Rutgers if you can call them big time). Army gets a decent following but they aren’t a powerhouse by any means.
Random question here, as an outsider i've always viewed NYC sports teams as two groups and felt like fans latched on to one or the other as a whole without a lot of mixing and matching.
Group 1 is the mainstream group: Yankees, Giants, Knicks, Rangers
Group 2 is the contrarian group: Mets, Jets, Nets, Islanders
is this a fair assessment, or have I just been making this up in my head my whole life?
Also how do the Devils fit into the big picture, and what are the college sports teams that an individual might root for when they live in NYC?
What’s wrong with Oklahoma? They should have crushed Army lol.
My son was texting me at dinner about the Army/OK game. I literally didn't understand what I was reading (partially because it was written in 11 year old jargon) but my brain couldn't comprehend the concept that that game would be even remotely close. I haven't gone back to see what happened as I don't care all that much but its baffling how Army would take that game to OT.What’s wrong with Oklahoma? They should have crushed Army lol.
As a kid, I watched the ABA Nets much more than the Knicks(I think at the time you could cheer for both teams). Dr. J and the clear out the right side for him offense was exciting. The red, white, and blue ball was really cool.Only thing that’s off is nets. Basically everyone is a Knicks fan
Football, I'm not sure why anyone is a Jets fan. Probably stems back to Namath, but they're definitely the less popular of the two teams. The Giants winning Super Bowls more recently likely hasn't helped their case.
Wow, that's a lot of fascinating discussion that I didn't expect. Thank you!
It makes being a fan much more fun in the NY area. Many of your friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc. root for the "other" team so it certainly spices things up. In almost every other market everyone simply roots for the home team which is a bit vanilla...New York is really a unique place when it comes to sports, rivalries, and fans. There are so many factors as to why people choose the teams they do, I really don't think outsiders understand it all that much. It's highly populated, condensed, and competitive. There are three NHL teams within 20 miles of each other, two football teams who literally play in the same stadium, two baseball teams who play miles apart, two basketball teams right next to each other too. Other places have multiple teams, just not as many or set up the same way. LA is probably the closest at this point, but that's relatively new for them with the football teams being in the area.