We need grit

[potroaster]

Just like Murat had pointed out in his questioning to Maurice tonight, this team is lacking grit. We are gonna get decked this year without much pushback from our unit. I don't advocate us getting a bunch of Pelusos, but 1 Peluso might be a good thing. Lowry, Bitetto, Poolman. Who else do we have to protect our players? This ain't flag football.

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[PhilJets]

We had so much girt all our previous years except last year when the team just went south.

I think its overblown with this team just because.

We have grit and much more important hunger and drive . Something to prove.

This team just need to believe as our skills are better than most teams.

Also we are not gonna get hammered by bigger teams.

There will be some momentum in the games that bigger slower team might have upper hand but if our Jets players just keep on moving their feet and let their skills shine.

We'll be alright

 

[voyageur]

We had so much girt the all our previous years except last year when the team just went south.

I think its overblown with this team just because.

We have grit and much more important hunger and drive . Something to prove.

This team just need to believe as our skills are better than most teams.

Also we are not gonna get hammered by bigger teams.

There will be some moementum in the game that bigger slower team might have upper hand but if players just keep on moving their feet and let their skills shine.

We'll be alright

Wheeler is a big man. He took down a big man in Staal tonight. Letestu got pasted, Bourque delivered a better hit same shift. Bitetto threw out some big hits tonight. Laine had 8, and this is against a tough Minnesota team. St. Louis is similarly built, but with more talent spread out. And Larry Robinson is a better coach than Scott Stevens. The rest of the teams in the Central are not that tough. Nashville. Is Watson tougher than Lowry? Colorado's toughest player is probably Ian Cole. Or Kadri. Dallas has Benn. Roman Polak. Chicago is not tough. So to win in the Central, you probably want to be quick. Our slow defense was a big reason for the 1st round exit. Problem solved. I feel like the Jets can be a tough team, by being tough to play against. Can match the skill of most teams. Can match the physicality as well, though Winnipeg has not yet played the more rough and tumble Pacific teams yet.

I like gritty hockey. I think you have to have some to go far in the playoffs. But I also recognize that hockey is increasingly about speed, and transition, and special teams success. Jets don't look overwhelmed by tough teams. They have taken some cheap shots, but also drawn bad penalties from being hard to play against. Once we arrive at 4 lines of relentless pressure, with everyone playing a role, I think the Jets will be fine. No passengers, and able to defend themselves with quickness as their primary feature.

 

[Jets 31]

With how good i think our PP will be this year teams may think twice about taking penalties against us . Even 4 on 4 i wouldn't want to deal with the Jets forwards with all that open ice .

 

[Jets4Life]

Just like Murat had pointed out in his questioning to Maurice tonight, this team is lacking grit. We are gonna get decked this year without much pushback from our unit. I don't advocate us getting a bunch of Pelusos, but 1 Peluso might be a good thing. Lowry, Bitetto, Poolman. Who else do we have to protect our players? This ain't flag football.

The days of goons and head-shots are almost long gone. The game is evolving, especially since the lockout of 2005. The NHL is heading in a direction where speed and finesse will prevail. It could conceivably give us some problems in the playoffs, or later in the season against division rivals, but it's impact is overrated. Besides, the Jets were the biggest team in terms of height and weight for much of the past five seasons. Now we are probably somewhere in the middle of the pack.

 

[Gil Fisher]

What you really want is a goon.

 

[PhilJets]

What you really want is a goon.

We have Laine

One is enough

 

[Guffman]

Bring back Jimmy Mann to sucker punch rivals that get too uppity with their physical play!

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

I don't like seeing guys dishing out head shots to our stars with impunity like last night eg Soucy - Ehlers. It was building during the game where our guys were getting blown up and there was no pushback. I think it was Frenchy that got plowed down from behind and then I guess was so scared to get hit again he was literally jumping out of the way of body checks to avoid any contact. Next thing you know they are targeting Scheif and Ehlers. Ehlers was doubled over and almost had to leave the game. Laine got blown up one time, but at least that was a clean hit in the corner and he is a big guy. But when Western Conference teams know that they can get really physical with your best players and there is no push back, watch out. In the past, we always had a physical presence on the ice that would make opposing players think twice about cheapshotting any Jet. Now, it's like open hunting season. I don't know what the solution is because I don't want us to waste roster spots on goons. But I think the solution maybe is to find players over time with a more even mix of speed, skill and size. We may have gotten too small too fast on D for Western Conference hockey. Time will tell I guess. Great win last night.

 

[PhilJets]

JMO is not a soft Dman.

I think when he comes around to 25 to 30 yrs of age he will throw his hip checks again.

 

[Gil Fisher]

We have Laine

One is enough

The Finnish Goon.

Maybe he ends up Captain, getting 1000 points, retiring here, making some notiously bad investment decisions, serving a term as City councilor, and signing autographs at future Fan Fests.

 

[Ducky10]

Didn't seem to help the Wild all that much last night. Minnesota fans would likely trade their grit for some talent.

 

[DannyGallivan]

Part of the reason we won is that our top line refused to be pushed around. Of course, our top line is huge (tiny Scheifele at a muscular 6'2'' is the little guy), but they pushed back big time. Laine had 8 hits halfway through the game. We were lucky though... the refs let them play or we would see our three best forwards in the penalty box at really bad times. Other teams will learn from this and try to goad them into penalties. We need to be careful.

 

[ijuka]

Just like Murat had pointed out in his questioning to Maurice tonight, this team is lacking grit. We are gonna get decked this year without much pushback from our unit. I don't advocate us getting a bunch of Pelusos, but 1 Peluso might be a good thing. Lowry, Bitetto, Poolman. Who else do we have to protect our players? This ain't flag football.

Are you serious? Jets are more physical than almost every other team in NHL. Most of the players are big and strong. Why don't you include Wheeler, for example? Laine?

 

[Aries56]

I agree re: grit. We barely use the fourth line, why not have a guy that's reliably defensively and is big enough to defend his linemates? He can be a PK specialist.

Luoto / Chibisov possibly? Having a Peluso that is slow and a liability isn't the answer.

The refs turned the other way yesterday and our stars got run over.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Potato is grittier than Niku. Poolman is gritty. When you're winning do you really want your players headhunting? That pushback would result in penalties for jets and let wild back in it.

 

[Ducky10]

Odd, I thought the Jets initiated most of the physical play, they actually outhit the Wild on the stat sheet, for what that's worth. Minnesota played their typical game, stack the middle of the ice, wait for turnovers, get the puck deep and bore the living shit out of everyone by cycling the puck and going low to high the odd time. The Jets were more than willing to be patient enough to let them run around outside the hash marks. They gave up a few 10 bell chance but that was more coverage breakdown related than anything to do with size or grit.

Refs were brutal last night, those guys should be disciplined for some of the shit they blatantly let go. Directly responsible for Ehlers almost getting hurt worse than he did because of how they let things escalate.

 

[FFHockey]

Odd, I thought the Jets initiated most of the physical play, they actually outhit the Wild on the stat sheet, for what that's worth. Minnesota played their typical game, stack the middle of the ice, wait for turnovers, get the puck deep and bore the living **** out of everyone by cycling the puck and going low to high the odd time. The Jets were more than willing to be patient enough to let them run around outside the hash marks. They gave up a few 10 bell chance but that was more coverage breakdown related than anything to do with size or grit.

Refs were brutal last night, those guys should be disciplined for some of the **** they blatantly let go. Directly responsible for Ehlers almost getting hurt worse than he did because of how they let things escalate.

How in the heck did he get a penalty on that play?...I had to watch on my phone due to power outage, so it was kind of sketchy to see what happened as it kept pausing on me.

 

[Ducky10]

How in the heck did he get a penalty on that play?...I had to watch on my phone due to power outage, so it was kind of sketchy to see what happened as it kept pausing on me.

I still don't understand it, it was brutal.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

I still don't understand it, it was brutal.

New rule this year. Two minutes for getting your face ripped off. In the fine print is says 'only a penalty if your face is a Jets face'

 

[WolfgangPuck]

I think we are softer this year without Chiarot and Tanev laying down the hits. Add Bluff out of the line up and I m disappointed that we didn’t get a more physical present at the blue line that can play

 

[Keystone]

Be all good when Buff is back.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I do think 'grit' is over-rated a bit. Some of the best Red Wings teams didn't have a lot of grit, but they definitely had speed and talent.

That said, aside from Buff obviously, grit is the one thing missing from the D with Trouba being gone.

 

[AKAChip]

No... we don’t.

We were very lucky for years to have a guy in Byfuglien who was extremely skilled while still being the toughest guy on the ice. At this point, you can’t replace his “grit”’without a major sacrifice in skill. Most of the tough/gritty guys left in the NHL majorly chase the play. I don’t want any Ryan Hartmans on this team. We have enough scrubs already.

 

[DannyGallivan]

I do think 'grit' is over-rated a bit. Some of the best Red Wings teams didn't have a lot of grit, but they definitely had speed and talent.

That said, aside from Buff obviously, grit is the one thing missing from the D with Trouba being gone.

No, the Red Wings were balanced, including grit.