Blue Jays Discussion: Guys are getting hurt, but Grichuk is mashing.

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Canada4Gold

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I can't believe they didn't split up the Rays/O's series so they could play against the Jays/Nats instead. They're both in Baltimore which is literally just up the road from Washington. Seems silly to just have 2 teams who can play just waiting instead.
 

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By the sounds of it the MLB is waiting on to see if the Indians and Twins have it. Basicly guarantees team to team transmission and thus the season needs to be shuttered.

I think most of us knew it would come to this at some point. The MLB basicallt did nothing to address the actual issue whereas other leagues actually took steps to protect their players and staff
 

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Manfred last week: "This is fine. It's not a doomsday scenario"

Manfred this week: "This is a doomsday scenario."

What a knob.

But at the same time, the players are knobs too for the relaxed/resistant attitude to following protocols or having to be quarantined/isolated to keep things contained.

Knobs all around, basically.
 

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If the season is canned, I'm going to be slightly annoyed that we started Pearson's clock 2 games before the year ended. You can't fault them, but damn I wish the rumour that they had to wait until today for the extra year was correct. At least it was a fun start from him, we got that much.
 

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If the season is canned, I'm going to be slightly annoyed that we started Pearson's clock 2 games before the year ended. You can't fault them, but damn I wish the rumour that they had to wait until today for the extra year was correct. At least it was a fun start from him, we got that much.
Is it really important right now? If the season ends Monday he will have logged half a year of service time which still gives us 6 full seasons. He can start next year in the rotation without any wait.
 
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Canada4Gold

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Is it really important right now? If the season ends Monday he will have logged half a year of service time which still gives us 6 full seasons. He can start next year in the rotation without any wait.

It's not a big deal obviously, but I imagine if this season never existed they would have waited the 14 days next year. Half a season of service time for 1 start is also a terrible deal for the team. Even if there was 0 service time this year and they started him with the team next year anyway if he struggled at any point and got demoted(not likely but possible) then it's basically a free year as well. Also I have no idea how super 2 is affected by this and if he might qualify with 1 start.

Like I said, not a big deal, the timing is just slightly annoying if that happens.
 

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What is a Super Two? | Glossary

Super Two

Definition

Players typically must accrue three years of Major League service time -- with one year of service time equaling 172 days on the 25-man roster or the Major League injured list -- to become eligible for salary arbitration. Super Two is a designation that allows a select group of players to become eligible for arbitration before reaching three years of service time.

To qualify for the Super Two designation, players must rank in the top 22 percent, in terms of service time, among those who have amassed between two and three years in the Majors. Typically, this applies to players who have two years and at least 130 days of service time, although the specific cutoff date varies on a year-to-year basis.

Example

Dexter Fowler completed the 2011 season with two years and 168 days of Major League service time, which made him one of the leaders in service time among players who had between two and three years in the Majors. Thus, the outfielder qualified as a Super Two player and was eligible for arbitration. Fowler went through arbitration four times before reaching free agency following the 2015 season.
 

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What is a Service Time? | Glossary

Service Time

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Players receive Major League service time for each day spent on the 26-man roster (it was 25, prior to 2020) or the Major League injured list. Important to players and clubs alike, service time is used to determine when players are eligible for arbitration as well as free agency.

Each Major League regular season consists of 187 days (typically 183 days prior to 2018), and each day spent on the active roster or injured list earns a player one day of service time. Under the 2017-21 Collective Bargaining Agreement, any player who violates the drug program will no longer receive Major League Service during his suspension, unless his suspension is reduced by 20 or more games under the mitigation provision of the program.

A player is deemed to have reached "one year" of Major League service upon accruing 172 days, whether in a single year or accumulated across multiple years. Though a typical regular season lasts 183 days, the most a player can accumulate in one year is 172 days. You don't have to get those 172 days all in one year to get to 1.000 years of service time, it can be across multiple.

Upon reaching six years of Major League service, a player becomes eligible for free agency at the end of that season (unless he has already signed a contract extension that covers one or more of his free-agent seasons).

All players with at least three (but less than six) years of Major League service time become eligible for salary arbitration, through which they can earn substantial raises relative to the Major League minimum salary. Additionally, Major League Baseball each year identifies the group of players that ended the prior season with between two and three years of Major League service and at least 86 days of Major League service in that season and designates the top 22 percent -- in terms of service time -- as arbitration eligible. Those in the top 22 percent -- "Super Two" players -- are also eligible for salary arbitration despite having less than three years of Major League service.

Service time also becomes a factor for players who are considerably further along in their careers. Players with at least 10 years of Major League service who have spent the past five consecutive seasons with the same team earn "10-and-5" rights. Under these circumstances, a player can veto any trade scenario that is proposed. In essence, 10-and-5 rights function as a full no-trade clause.
 

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Teoscar is OPSing close to 1000 over his last 60 games. I think he's consumed Vladdy's soul.

.900 OPS, 133 wRC+, 27 HR, and even not completely terrible .328 OBP in 93 games since being demoted to Buffalo last year.
 

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So the NHL can do and get the results on 1500 test a day....but whatever the MLB is doing takes multiple days? Absolutely wild.


NHL Bubble is in Canada.

Vs.

Whatever the MLB is doing in America.

Its two leagues at the far end of each side, and one clearly took COVID seriously.

The other... well...
 
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So the NHL can do and get the results on 1500 test a day....but whatever the MLB is doing takes multiple days? Absolutely wild.


There are at least three tests. One takes 45 min, one takes 3 days, and one is slower. There's a significant cost difference between the 3.
 

Clark4Ever

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TSN reporting more positive test results in St. Louis now.

The season is likely done, and the players have no one to blame but themselves.
 
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