Series Talk: WCSF: Dallas Stars vs Colorado Avalanche | Stars lead 3-2

[SeanMoneyHands]

No Nuke and Toews and this team has no chance at the cup this year.

Dallas has owned this series.

 

[Zrhutch]

By eye, I thought COL was unfortunate to not be up 2-1 going into G4. They quite significantly controlled G3 but couldn't score in the 1st and 2nd when they had a ton of chances.

Avs 2nd line has also looked pretty good to me. Mittelstadt is impressive.

I mean, at this point it's clear Dallas will win. But I think showing up the rink for G4 and finding out Nuke is in rehab again and Toews is mysteriously out would affect you somewhat.

You could kinda make the same "lack of depth" argument against DAL for the playoffs. Where would they be without Wyatt Johnston?


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By eye, I thought COL was unfortunate to not be up 2-1 going into G4. They quite significantly controlled G3 but couldn't score in the 1st and 2nd when they had a ton of chances.

Avs 2nd line has also looked pretty good to me. Mittelstadt is impressive.

I mean, at this point it's clear Dallas will win. But I think showing up the rink for G4 and finding out Nuke is in rehab again and Toews is mysteriously out would affect you somewhat.

You could kinda make the same "lack of depth" argument against DAL for the playoffs. Where would they be without Wyatt Johnston?


The votes are already in.

This is more about the sum total of his career so far rather than this year. Constant disrespect to a guy that should be a finalist most years.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

I can think of one thing missing since the cup run

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Interesting to me that the Av's consciously decided not to use Landy's LTIR space in either of the last two years. (AFAIK - not an Av's cap expert)

 

[BoxOfChocolates]

Interesting to me that the Av's consciously decided not to use Landy's LTIR space in either of the last two years. (AFAIK - not an Av's cap expert)

They used it this year

 

[bossram]

This is more about the sum total of his career so far rather than this year. Constant disrespect to a guy that should be a finalist most years.

I don't think anyone is really disrespecting Heiskanen. Everyone knows he's elite.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

They used it this year.

On whom? I thought the Middlestadt/Byram deal was a "hockey trade" with about even $'s going back and forth.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

By eye, I thought COL was unfortunate to not be up 2-1 going into G4. They quite significantly controlled G3 but couldn't score in the 1st and 2nd when they had a ton of chances.

Avs 2nd line has also looked pretty good to me. Mittelstadt is impressive.

I mean, at this point it's clear Dallas will win. But I think showing up at the rink for G4 and finding out Nuke is in rehab again and Toews is mysteriously out would affect you somewhat.

You could kinda make the same "lack of depth" argument against DAL for the playoffs. Where would they be without Wyatt Johnston?


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I think away fans don't maybe fully understand the Dallas game and game plan. "Tons of chances" for Colorado in Game 3? I donno man, I saw lots of muffins, easy pucks into Oettinger glove and chest, not many real high danger chances. Just because a team puts up 12-15 shots where 10-12 of them are easy saves doesn't really scare me as a Dallas fan.

Expected goals after that first period was 1. Is that really some crazy period? Dallas just sticks with their game, plays to counter attack when possible, and then is up 1-0 after the first period.

Dallas needs to shutdown 3 players to win this series, Colorado needs to neutralize 4 lines and beat a better goalie than their team has. Tough ask for the 3 guys.

 

[BoxOfChocolates]

On whom? I thought the Middlestadt/Byram deal was a "hockey trade" with about even $'s going back and forth.

They were already using Landeskog’s money before the deadline. They were above the cap after the summer

 

[AslanRH]

Interesting to me that the Av's consciously decided not to use Landy's LTIR space in either of the last two years. (AFAIK - not an Av's cap expert)

The were using it all year

 

[Avsfan1921]

Mack out there playing with no hart.

While embarrassing, it’s not as bad as giving the leafs their first series win since 1969, so it could always be worse I suppose.

 

[Chileiceman]

Avs are mentally broken. They've been Jekyll and Hyde all year. This is the team that farted their way through the end of the regular season, except their goalie is actually making some saves. Thye look like how Winnipeg looked in round 1. Can't string two passes together, can't win any 50-50 battles, can't create any sustained offensive zone time, can't retrieve any dump-ins. Mental lapses and turnovers galore. It's over.

 

[Coffey]

Avs are mentally broken. They've been Jekyll and Hyde all year. This is the team that farted their way through the end of the regular season, except their goalie is actually making some saves. Thye look like how Winnipeg looked in round 1. Can't string two passes together, can't win any 50-50 battles, can't create any sustained offensive zone time, can't retrieve any dump-ins. Mental lapses and turnovers galore. It's over.

But what about Mackinnon's leadership?

 

[BoxOfChocolates]

But what about Mackinnon's leadership?

It’s not great IMO

Avs clearly have missed Landeskog and EJ (as terrible as he now is)

 

[eartotheground]

By eye, I thought COL was unfortunate to not be up 2-1 going into G4. They quite significantly controlled G3 but couldn't score in the 1st and 2nd when they had a ton of chances.

Avs 2nd line has also looked pretty good to me. Mittelstadt is impressive.

I mean, at this point it's clear Dallas will win. But I think showing up at the rink for G4 and finding out Nuke is in rehab again and Toews is mysteriously out would affect you somewhat.

You could kinda make the same "lack of depth" argument against DAL for the playoffs. Where would they be without Wyatt Johnston?


The votes are already in.

kinda hard to go with the eye test when the avs have not played a single minute of the series with the lead. and even the OT in game 1, dallas controlled the majority of it until the game winning breakaway.

not counting them out until it's truly over, but with the benefit of hindsight they look exactly how i would expect a team down 1-3 to look.

 

[Avsfan1921]

But what about Mackinnon's leadership?

At this point, he’s proving no better than Mcdavid in that area. Unfortunately.

 

[MBTendy]

At this point, he’s proving no better than Mcdavid in that area. Unfortunately.

I wouldn't put them on the same boat. Mack has done something that is extremely difficult, and that is winning a Cup.

McDavid hasn't.

 

[AslanRH]

But what about Mackinnon's leadership?

I think he's trying and has probably spent his capital this year. I think it is why he looks to have just tossed in the towel.
Difference seems to be that Landy and co. seemed to keep the team more even keeled no matter the situation. This team has more highs and lows than a Wagner opera.

 

[Master P]

While embarrassing, it’s not as bad as giving the leafs their first series win since 1969, so it could always be worse I suppose.

You wanna try that again?

 

[Coffey]

At this point, he’s proving no better than Mcdavid in that area. Unfortunately.

EQUALITY

 

[Avsfan1921]

You wanna try that again?

Nope.

EQUALITY

1 cup to zero is not equal.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

Dallas 5 D are going to be huffing and puffing in Denver they said.

 

[Coffey]

1 cup to zero is not equal.

Eh, Connor would have a cup too if he was on that stacked team lol

 

[Avsfan1921]

Dallas 5 D are going to be huffing and puffing in Denver they said.

Turns out the only one huffing was nuke.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

Winning game 5 would be huge for Dallas to get a bit of rest, they haven't had 2 days off since April 26th

 

[Master P]

Nope.

Probably for the best.