Series Talk: WCSF: Colorado Avalanche (C3) vs Dallas Stars (C1) | Stars win 4-2

[henchman21]

Is that actually a rule that you have to move the puck?

Yup. The team with the puck is responsible for keeping it moving. It is almost never called (last time I remember is that Flyers temper tantrum), but technically if a team sits behind the net for more than a few seconds they could be called.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Yup. The team with the puck is responsible for keeping it moving. It is almost never called (last time I remember is that Flyers temper tantrum), but technically if a team sits behind the net for more than a few seconds they could be called.

Keeping it moving, yes. You can’t pin it against the boards or have your goalie cover it.

It’s completely within the rules to just stand there stickhandling back and forth in a stopped position. The puck is loose.

 

[Chiarelli]

delay of game should be called in regular season OT then when players circle back from the attacking zone to behind their own net. No different

 

[The Moops]

Makar will go down as the greatest Av of all-time imo.

He’s the X factor Colorado has that no one else does.

He's no Quinn Hughes

 

[pockets]

Random thought: today I realized the Avs haven't clinched a playoff series at home in Denver since 2008, let's hope that trend gets broken this year

 

[Pokecheque]

delay of game should be called in regular season OT then when players circle back from the attacking zone to behind their own net. No different

Well technically the puck is still moving, but we know the NHL has discussed changing the rules there to make crossing back across the red line a whistle or penalty.

But IMO if you have to put in that kind of rule, then you're just slapping one more gimmick on something that's far too gimmicky to begin with. And I also don't think a three-point system will solve anything either. I say just make OT 10 minutes of 4-on-4, and if they can't figure it out, the game ends in a tie and no one's happy.

 

[henchman21]

Keeping it moving, yes. You can’t pin it against the boards or have your goalie cover it.

It’s completely within the rules to just stand there stickhandling back and forth in a stopped position. The puck is loose.

I’ll find the video here in a bit, but you can’t just sit behind the net stick handling either. It is almost never called, but a rule nonetheless

 

[Ceremony]

Makar will go down as the greatest Av of all-time imo.

He’s the X factor Colorado has that no one else does.

He'll be scrubbed from the archives Soviet-style when he signs in Calgary.

 

[GeoRox89]

He'll be scrubbed from the archives Soviet-style when he signs in Calgary.

Yep just like when Burnaby Joe went home to the Canucks

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Bad goaltending there
I feel like his reaction is way too slow. Wood has pretty much one option, go back hand. He baited Wood to go backhand and then didn't move to block it.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Honestly, if we had Landy, Drouin and LOC in this playoffs, it wouldn’t even be close as far as depth goes. Obviously I don’t know what’s gonna happen rest of this series, but so far our depth scoring has been just fine.

It's enough because our top end talent kills almost any team. MacK + Makar + Rantanen just tough to beat.

 

[Foppa2118]

He's got another level he can get to in the playoffs, but I love this new positive MacKinnon. I think it's had a profound impact on the team in Landy's absence.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

He's got another level he can get to in the playoffs, but I love this new positive MacKinnon. I think it's had a profound impact on the team in Landy's absence.

That's pretty amazing.

No wonder they are able to make these comebacks. Zero panic.

 

[Foppa2118]

Bedsy to Georgiev after the game. Second time I've seen him time this walk so he pumps his tires after a win in the playoffs. This is the right way to coach him IMO.

"Georgie! f***in A man! (ass slap)"

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Bedsy to Georgiev after the game. Second time I've seen him time this walk so he pumps his tires after a win in the playoffs. This is the right way to coach him IMO.

"Georgie! f***in A man! (ass slap)"

It's like "Our playoff success rests on you, please save more"

Team must feel the same. They have the offense and defense. We can go all the way. Only question these players have is Georgiev mentally strong enough? He's been good enough so far, outside that one game. He actually recovered well from the Game one vs Jets. I was certain he was done after that. It was not easy to comeback from that.. that itself shows good mental skill.

Maybe the first bad game vs Jets was the best thing to happen George. He came back from it and since then he's been good. Fix things early.

 

[RockLobster]

I want to believe the Stars are going to be a little demoralized in G2 after blowing a 3-0 lead, but ultimately my head tells me that they’re going to come out as strong as possible tomorrow. I can’t shake the feeling they’re going to take G2 and we’re headed back to Denver even at 1-1

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

I want to believe the Stars are going to be a little demoralized in G2 after blowing a 3-0 lead, but ultimately my head tells me that they’re going to come out as strong as possible tomorrow. I can’t shake the feeling they’re going to take G2 and we’re headed back to Denver even at 1-1

They will come out Guns out blazing.

First game: Colorado win hits 45-20! We were very physical.

First game vs Vegas, they got outhit: 33-56.
Second game: Dallas 54 hits and Vegas 55 hits.

They lost the first game vs Vegas too and came out hard hitting game two, at home.

I think they will ramp up the physicality. Hopefully this pays us off in terms of powerplay, because they will take some bad hits and try to slow us down. It's not their game though. They can't do it every game, at least not against Vegas.

We need to play a smart game and not let them get into our heads by playing more physical. They will try to hit our defense hard I think. Make Girard scared etc.

First ten minutes will be pain for us. My prediction. Like you said, they will come out with everything they have. After that we will have our chance, when they slow down. It's about weathering the storm first and then punishing them.

 

[EdAVSfan]

I want to believe the Stars are going to be a little demoralized in G2 after blowing a 3-0 lead, but ultimately my head tells me that they’re going to come out as strong as possible tomorrow. I can’t shake the feeling they’re going to take G2 and we’re headed back to Denver even at 1-1

lol RL, I legit think you’ve come with a different variation of this type of post after every playoff game this season so far.

It’s tough for optimism to creep through. I understand the feeling.

 

[Foppa2118]

I want to believe the Stars are going to be a little demoralized in G2 after blowing a 3-0 lead, but ultimately my head tells me that they’re going to come out as strong as possible tomorrow. I can’t shake the feeling they’re going to take G2 and we’re headed back to Denver even at 1-1

If they come out strong, but the Avs score first, the foundation will start to crack with self doubt, and they could be mentally beaten after that just like all the other teams.

 

[RockLobster]

If they come out strong, but the Avs score first, the foundation will start to crack with self doubt, and they could be mentally beaten after that just like all the other teams.

Trying to remember the last time the Avs scored first…it’s so hard since Georgie is usually allowing a goal somewhere with the first 1-3 shots he faces.

 

[RockLobster]

lol RL, I legit think you’ve come with a different variation of this type of post after every playoff game this season so far.

It’s tough for optimism to creep through. I understand the feeling.

Meh, that’s fair. We’ve had years of this weird quasi-emotional abuse/torture where they just let us down in big games/moments. Obviously they didn’t in 2022, and I’ll cherish that forever, but I legit didn’t think Winnipeg would wilt like they did in G4 (the Sunday afternoon game). Just didn’t believe they’d want to face the prospect of returning home in a 3-1 hole.

Dallas is a whole other animal. They are legit a hard opponent because of their ability to win lower scoring contests. And I loathe Peter DeBoer, but he’s definitely not afraid to make adjustments that result in a boring-as-hell-but-wins-games style of hockey.

 

[missionAvs]

Bedsy to Georgiev after the game. Second time I've seen him time this walk so he pumps his tires after a win in the playoffs. This is the right way to coach him IMO.

"Georgie! f***in A man! (ass slap)"

Bednar needs to up his slap ass game. @RoyIsALegend and I would have slapped his ass so hard that Rants would have fallen over.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Obviously this is a big IF and there is a long long way to go, but last night DNVR brought up an interesting stat (for a change). If we got far and Cale won the Smythe again, he would be the 2nd D-man in NHL history to win multiple Conn Smythe awards. Bobby Orr is the only D-man to achieve that.

 

[dahrougem2]

Trying to remember the last time the Avs scored first…it’s so hard since Georgie is usually allowing a goal somewhere with the first 1-3 shots he faces.

Game 4 vs Winnipeg lol. Not that long ago.

 

[PAZ]

At this point, we shouldn’t even be surprised anymore. This is Mikko Rantanen. Stand around and glide, lots of late stickwork slashing and hooking, then moments of brilliance. That seeing-eye wrister off the crossbar last night was a thing of beauty, too. He is just so damn lazy for 50-60% of his shifts, that’s the problem.

I'll give Rantanen a little bit of leeway. He's averages 23 minutes a game this season/playoffs, which is the 3rd highest TOI in the playoffs for forwards.

He just doesn't have the conditioning to play 23 hard minutes. I think we'd see a very different Rantanen if his minutes were brought down to 18-19 minutes a game.