Proposal: Wayne Simmonds to Bruins

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

I'd trade Heinen for Wayne
Let's do it!

 

[Maurice of Orange]

OP seems reasonable at the time.

 

[The Madrigal]

Probably out now after getting Coyle.

 

[wintersej]

Probably out now after getting Coyle.

Bruins needed a 3C and a 2RW. They have 15 million in deadline space. I hope they shooter higher than Simmonds, but Coyle doesn’t stop anything.

 

[PlayoffBeard365]

If Donny makes a move for a solid 2W then I would be fine with Simmonds for depth but his worth is minimal IMO and Im not giving much up for him.

 

[FMichael]

To Flyers - Cehlarik, Clifton, 3rd round pick
To Bruins - Simmonds

Don't the Bruins already have 'Simmonds' type players on their 3rd/4th lines?

I'd think the Bruins would be more interested in a decent 2nd line winger.

EDIT - just realized the op was back in December, but my point of view remains the same.

 

[Btown]

Simmonds can absolutely fetch a late 1st. Look at trade deadline deals in recent years. Teams overpay every year.

So u agree it would be an overpayment?

 

[Rebels57]

So u agree it would be an overpayment?

Simmonds was REALLY struggling when I made that post. Could barely skate. Hes still not playing like he was a few years ago, but hes been better. I think a late 1st is probably about fair at this point.

 

[Hookslide]

There was a time I would be all in on Simmonds ,that time has passed. Unless he comes real cheap, he is not someone the Bruins should pursue. I am not trying too diminish his talent ,but I think his best days are behind him.I certainly would not give a first rounder for him......

 

[SenatorJoey]

To Flyers - Cehlarik, Clifton, 3rd round pick
To Bruins - Simmonds

Honestly I feel like Simmonds would be great fit for Boston's playoff run.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Initially this offer was garbage from a Flyers POV. Now I don't think I'd offer much more than this.

 

[CupofOil]

So what do you want then

Simmonds is not worth a 1st round pick

Brian Boyle returned a 2nd so emphatically yes, Simmonds is worth a 1st. Players like Simmonds go for 1st+ every single trade deadline.
You might not think he's worth a 1st but the market tells a different story.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Question - would you rather have McAvoy at $7m per or Panarin at $9m per? Charlie will be commanding that money and we will have to give up more assets to acquire him.

Probably JFK and a first for a high risk non signed rental.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

We don't need Simmonds, the guy can't skate. We have just acquired CC who is a similar player.

I'm praying Charlie follows the footsteps of Blake Wheeler at his age. He has the tools but has a questionable motor.

 

[JayB]

Simmonds+Raffl <-> Heinen+1st

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

We don't need Simmonds, the guy can't skate. We have just acquired CC who is a similar player.

I'm praying Charlie follows the footsteps of Blake Wheeler at his age. He has the tools but has a questionable motor.

Simmonds would slot in fine in our bottom 6 and would be a welcome addition. Would give us some much needed sandpaper and net front presence too. If we're trading him to be in the top 6, at top 6 cost, no thanks.

 

[BB88]

Brian Boyle returned a 2nd so emphatically yes, Simmonds is worth a 1st. Players like Simmonds go for 1st+ every single trade deadline.
You might not think he's worth a 1st but the market tells a different story.

& Nino went for a cap dump, while Coyle for B prospect.

Not a chance in hell I'd pay 1st for Simmonds.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Question - would you rather have McAvoy at $7m per or Panarin at $9m per? Charlie will be commanding that money and we will have to give up more assets to acquire him.

Probably JFK and a first for a high risk non signed rental.

No 1sts for a rental this year. If we trade the 1st for a younger player and term then by all means yes, but no rentals.

McAvoy at 7mm, for sure.

 

[CupofOil]

& Nino went for a cap dump, while Coyle for B prospect.

Not a chance in hell I'd pay 1st for Simmonds.

Apples and Oranges. Nino was a disappointment who had a rich, long term contract so his value had disintegrated.

With rentals, there's an arms race so if the Bruins don't pony up for one of the top rental forwards on the market, somebody will. You guys never learn, it happens every year.
Again, it doesn't matter if "you" won't do it. Somebody will.

 

[BB88]

Apples and Oranges. Nino was a disappointment who had a rich, long term contract so his value had disintegrated.

With rentals, there's an arms race so if the Bruins don't pony up for one of the top rental forwards on the market, somebody will. You guys never learn, it happens every year.
Again, it doesn't matter if "you" won't do it. Somebody will.

Sure for Stone/Panarin/Duchene, even Dzingel, but thanks to them Simmonds isn't a A level rental this season.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Initially this offer was garbage from a Flyers POV. Now I don't think I'd offer much more than this.

Interestingly, he's actually looked much better the past several weeks, which anyone actually watching the games would attest to. His skating is back, and is much more involved on both ends of the ice. He was getting the bounces early this season and scoring, in spite of looking like he was a step behind everyone on the ice. Now, the bounces aren't there, but he's shown some chemistry with Patrick and will probably still reach ~20-25 goals. OP's offer is still very much a quality over quantity proposal that Fletcher would have to be Chia to take.

 

[CupofOil]

Sure for Stone/Panarin/Duchene, even Dzingel, but thanks to them Simmonds isn't a A level rental this season.

Yes, this year is different in that respect but in a deadline market where Boyle returns a 2nd, Simmonds is almost assuredly going to return a 1st.

It always happens around here where people underestimate the stupidity of GMs then scream out "overpay" every time they do something stupid.
Personally, I wouldn't trade a 1st for Simmonds either but the trade market doesn't reflect what I, @BB88 or any other HFer would do.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Interestingly, he's actually looked much better the past several weeks, which anyone actually watching the games would attest to. His skating is back, and is much more involved on both ends of the ice. He was getting the bounces early this season and scoring, in spite of looking like he was a step behind everyone on the ice. Now, the bounces aren't there, but he's shown some chemistry with Patrick and will probably still reach ~20-25 goals. OP's offer is still very much a quality over quantity proposal that Fletcher would have to be Chia to take.

Interesting - Admittedly haven't seen much of Simmonds recently but I think after the Coyle trade we need him less. Not saying the Flyers should do the trade by any means, but I wouldn't give up anything significant I dont think.

 

[BB88]

Yes, this year is different in that respect but in a deadline market where Boyle returns a 2nd, Simmonds is almost assuredly going to return a 1st.

It always happens around here where people underestimate the stupidity of GMs then scream out "overpay" every time they do something stupid.
Personally, I wouldn't trade a 1st for Simmonds but the trademark doesn't reflect what I, @BB88 or any other HFer would do.

& again Coyle just went for B prospect.

There's just too many forwards for all to return a 1st, Duchene, Stone, Panarin, Dzingel, Zuccarello, (Ferland), Simmonds.

How many teams are realistically looking at trading 1st's from contenders? Toronto has already traded theirs.

With Coyle Boston isn't desperate for Simmonds, it was nice for Sweeney to get it done early.

 

[StoneHands]

Sure for Stone/Panarin/Duchene, even Dzingel, but thanks to them Simmonds isn't a A level rental this season.

Simmonds will fetch a 1st at the deadline but that doesn't mean his value is anywhere near those guys. If you think that's all it's going to take to grab Stone/Panarin/Duchene, you're out of your mind. There are going to be a couple teams willing to give up a 1st plus a top prospect or young roster player and more for those guys and then there are going to be some teams that don't want to sell the farm and would rather just give up a late 1st for Simmonds.