Prospect Info: Way too early 2020 draft options

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  1. Ja Sports Registered User

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    Another fresh hype reel for Connor Zary - absolute workhorse of a player

    Hope you guys enjoy :)

     
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    Are we sure this isn't just Conor Sheary with a fake mustache?
     
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    Zary is the one player I hope falls a few spots if Carolina ends up 19/20 as currently indicated.

    The player who I am beginning to really appreciate is Brisson. From everything I can find, he is a creative offensively, solid two-way center. He also has NHL size (at least for this draft). I would definitely take Brisson before Holloway, Amirov, or Bourque. I would prefer he or Mysak—or trade down.
     
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    Best goalie prospect since Carey Price - would you guys gamble on him? Or go with a safer bet?

     
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    If he's there with our pick (read, if we are eliminated by the Rangers, don't win the lottery, and pick about #12 since say Pittsburgh and Edmonton lost as well) absolutely I'd look at him as our pick.
     
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    I like this option better.
     
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    Connor Zary looks like Jeff Skinner's younger brother.
     
  8. SvechneJerk Can we jump ahead to 2021, please?

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    My favorite result with the Draft Prospects sim, so far -

    -No Trades-
    19 - Askarov
    45 - M. Chromiak
    53 - L. Reichel
    69 - W. Wallinder
    84 - W. Villeneuve
    115 - A. Stranges
    146 - I. Phillips
    205 - M. Beryozkin
    208 - A. Rindell
     
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    I have yet to get a chance at Askarov in any of my run throughs.

    I do think we should take a hard look at Styf and Peeters in the later rounds.
     
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    What level of randomness did you use?
     
  11. SvechneJerk Can we jump ahead to 2021, please?

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    It was ~ 75-80%.
     
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    They definitely strike me as players who can rise to the occasion.

    I’m not nuts about them, though.
     
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  14. 42 jerks Not seeking rents

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    My guess is you set the "randomness" control quite high. I have used the simulator a few dozen times and haven't seen Riechel or Wallinder available that late—if that happens in the real draft the Canes would be big winners. Also getting Beryozkin in the 7th, which I have had happen multiple times, would be a great swing-for-the-fences pick.
     
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    Thanks to COVID I have spent way too much time (and money) reading scouting reports (I purchased both HockeyProspect and McKeen's).

    Colangelo—power forward model with better skating than most big guys, able to out-muscle own age competition. The one question is how much of his USHL production was due to playing with Brisson and Farrell. For instance in the WJC-19 he didn't score much and the one scouting report from that tournament is lackluster.

    Jarventie—talented scorer with good size and speed; most reports remark that he is bad/doesn't care in defensive end.

    Wiesblatt—has been moving up the rankings; scouts consistently comment about his quickness, "high motor," and ability to frustrate/disrupt opponents.

    Haven't read much about the other two.
     
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    I finally took a shot at the draft simulator. i dont like that you have trade more value than you get. It should have a buffer. And i had randomness turned down to 25%

    I traded 19 and 146 to SJ for 28 and 34. I drafted Mavrik Bouroque C, QJMHL with 28
    Marat Khusnutdisnov C from MHL with 34

    both a hard working, skilled centers at 5'11

    45 LD Kuznetsov from Russian through UCONN
    53 Pavel Novak, RW, Czech through WHL. Hard worker and good skater, just inconsistent.
    69 (nice) Sean Farrell, LW USHL. Smaller at 5'9 but can score.
    84 James Hardie LW OHL. Blew up for 21 goals after Christmas. A crazy streak or start of something good?

    I traded 115 and 205 to TOR for 118 and 198
    Then flipped 118 and 198 to WPG for 136 and 167

    136 G Artur Akhtyamov good stats in the MHL at 1.8 GAA and a SV % of .938. "smaller" at 6'2
    167 overager C Trevor Kuntar. Maybe just a late bloomer?
    208 RHD Pelletier from the QMJHL

    Unfortunately Lapierre was taken 11th. I contemplated taken RHD Schneider at 19 instead of trading. Jurmo and Wallinder went 38 and 40th but I felt that Khusnutdisnov was the better pick at 34.
     
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    Most of the players being discussed are options for the Canes in rounds 1-3. Depending on what happens in the play-in, the Canes still have a fourth rounder and two sevenths.

    Some of my favorite forwards for those picks:

    4th:

    Michal Gut. He didn't put up a lot of points with Everett this year as he was used more in defensive situations. However, in international play when he played top line/top PP he kept up with Mysak and Novak. Also, though he in one of the younger players he has been the Czech captain for both the U17 and U18 teams. He is one of the better defensive centers outside the first round.

    Ethan Cardwell. Also one of the younger players in the draft. He was ppg after a trade half-way through the season. Scouts note his poise, high IQ, and consistent defensive effort. Cardwell's grandfather played in the NHL and both his father and uncle played professionally never making it to the NHL.

    7th:

    Albin Sundsvik. Overage center with good size. Sundsvik is a solid two-way center who produced well in international tournaments. HOckeyProspect noted that he plays a "smart and modern game" that makes his line mates better.
     
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    Oh we need to pick Albin.

    [​IMG]
     
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    @Gocanes0506 got me thinking about the simulator again.

    I traded 19 & 115 for 28, 34, 123.
    Then traded 45 for 53 and 102. Ended up with the best haul yet.

    28—Brisson
    34—Reichel
    53—Jurmo
    54—Niederbach
    69—Finley
    84—Berard
    102—Magnusson
    127—Garand
    146—Gut
    205—Beryozkin
    208—Sundsvik
     
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    I have lost some time as Dan Stewart warned.

    The best value draft I have done is getting
    25- Mercer, RW
    33- Schneider, RHD
    36- Khusnutdinov, C
    49- Neighbors, LW
     
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    what settings did you use? Jurmo hast made it past 44 in my sims.
     
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    I had the randomness around 60% and team needs around 40%. A little surprising, but not outrageous as Jurmo is #45 in the list.
     
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    okay. Ive had my randomness in the 25-30% range and have fluctuated my teams needs percentages from high to down to the 25% range.
     
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    Even with the randomness at 50 I have found the simulator is only random in that 3-4 players within a range will switch. I would imagine at 25%, the first two rounds are within one pick of ranking.
     
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    Randomness - 25%
    Team Needs - 50%
    Traded 19 to ANA for 31, 36, 67

    31-Reichel
    36-Khusnutdinov
    45-O'Rourke
    53-Commesso
    67-Pashin
    69-Evangelista
    84-Finley
    115-Seeley
    146-I. Phillips
    205-Skotnikov
    208-Tarnstrom
     
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