Post-Game Talk: Washington Stanley Cup Champitals @ Yotes 9PM

[Sam Spade]

 

[troyerlaw]

Good on Copley. He is piling up a few wins already. I love it.

 

[traparatus]

I'm so happy I don't have to rip into Burakovsky .

++++Copley - Coyotes could've had a 5 goal lead after 1.
+++Vrana - Somebody had to step up, he did.
++Niskanen/Orlov - Way to not suck, fellas!
+Ovi
-Kuznetsov - We need a lot more from him.
--Reirden - I wouldn't be penciling Siegenthaler/Djoos vs Top Line in for the next game.
---Siegenthaler/Djoos - Study that tape hard. That was no good. Do the opposite.

Honorable mention: Andre Burakovsky. He giveth and he taketh away.

 

[Sam Spade]

Caps are 8-2 in their last ten. They still suck.

All those "hot" starts and teams that may have "turned the corner" yet the Metro is Caps/Jackets/Pens, and just as predicted, those are the teams that will finish top three (in any order).

 

[troyerlaw]

we need depth scoring in playoffs

That’s why we should trade him

I’d trade him straight-up for Donato, Vatrano, Yamamoto. (Basically anyone whose name ends with “o,” i guess, LOL.)

We know who Bura is, by this point. He’s weak along the boards, he’s prone to giveaways, his shaky confidence is a recurring issue, he disappears for 20 games at a time.

Unless you are an opposing GM reading HFBoards. In which case ... Bura RULES. So clutch. And a Cup winner, to boot.

 

[Sam Spade]

I’d trade him straight-up for Donato, Vatrano, Yamamoto. (Basically anyone whose name ends with “o,” i guess, LOL.)

We know who Bura is, by this point. He’s weak along the boards, he’s prone to giveaways, his shaky confidence is a recurring issue, he disappears for 20 games at a time.

Unless you are an opposing GM reading HFBoards. In which case ... Bura RULES. So clutch. And a Cup winner, to boot.

I agree but Burka isn't pulling back much, certainly not Donato. 2nd rounder IF the Caps get lucky. Unfortunately the rest of the NHL knows the bolded as well.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Fell asleep after the first. Woke up to check the score and expected a bad loss based on how they looked for most of the period that I saw. Hey, fun surprise!

 

[g00n]

Just watched the 3rd. Seemed like a lot of Caps fans cheering there for the ENG

 

[txpd]

-Kuznetsov - We need a lot more from him.
--Reirden - I wouldn't be penciling Siegenthaler/Djoos vs Top Line in for the next game.
---Siegenthaler/Djoos - Study that tape hard. That was no good. Do the opposite..

Kuznetsov is coming off a concussion where he missed significant games. It wasn't a little bump on the head. Remember how long it took for the real Oshie to emerge after he returned from a concussion last season. Don't expect full on Kuzy for a while yet.

You thought that it was Reirden's strategy to match a kid 3rd pair against an opposing top line? It was a road game. The dogs got the last change. They took advantage of the lack of depth.

 

[sycamore]

The Bura debate is just going to intensify after this one.

 

[Midnight Judges]

The Bura debate is just going to intensify after this one.

He was a complete disaster, and then somehow scored a GWG.

I still haven't heard anyone make a good suggestion other than keep him on the roster until his contract is over and then let him walk. His trade value is very low - almost nothing. Getting a good return is fanciful thinking.

 

[Silky mitts]

And he always looks to pass even though there are 2 sticks clearly in the way.

Other teams know 18 isn't comfortable with his shot right now

 

[maacoshark]

So yer saying you don’t like Niskanen?

Hmmmmm......where have I heard that before?

(Oh and btw — Niskanen had 2pts and was the ”Player of the Game” from the broadcast booth....but carry on, my wayward son)

Hmmmmmm I never said in that post that I dont like Niskanen.
Is that always your response? Niskanen had 2 points in this game so he is the greatest. So what. He had a good game. Does that make up for the 20 bad games he has had? I think not. Eller gets the same treatment here. A couple good games and he is a god. But people forget all the bad games.
There is no denying that that the bad has out weighed the good this season with those players this season. Orlov could probably be included with these guys as well.
All you have done is prove my point. Every time Niskanen or Eller has a decent game you guys let me know about it by pumping them up. But it really doesnt happen very often. Does it? Like I said they have far more bad games then good games.
I'd like to see them play well on a more consistent basis. That is my issue. For some reason you refuse to acknowledge that they have been inconsistent.
And why aren't you protecting Burakovsky. Everyone shit all over him in this thread lastnight but he scored the game winning goal.
BTW I never said a word about the way Niskanen played lastnight. He played well. He played the way he should be playing every game.

 

[Sam Spade]

He was a complete disaster, and then somehow scored a GWG.

I still haven't heard anyone make a good suggestion other than keep him on the roster until his contract is over and then let him walk. His trade value is very low - almost nothing. Getting a good return is fanciful thinking.

This is the only answer. Unless he is part of a package deal, which I absolutely don't see happening this season, he is worth more NOW than anything the Caps would get back for him. Plus he can always be scratched if it gets that bad, it worked last season.

 

[g00n]

Bura has Mike Green Disease. Stink all night, maybe cost a goal or two, then score a goal to complicate things.

 

[Silky mitts]

Bura has Mike Green Disease. Stink all night, maybe cost a goal or two, then score a goal to complicate things.

Cure should be the same for both, let them go in free agency

 

[Chukcha]

That’s why we should trade him

I’d trade him straight-up for Donato, Vatrano, Yamamoto. (Basically anyone whose name ends with “o,” i guess, LOL.)

We know who Bura is, by this point. He’s weak along the boards, he’s prone to giveaways, his shaky confidence is a recurring issue, he disappears for 20 games at a time.

Unless you are an opposing GM reading HFBoards. In which case ... Bura RULES. So clutch. And a Cup winner, to boot.

would you trade him for a rental? Let's say, Panarin?

 

[Chukcha]

He was a complete disaster, and then somehow scored a GWG.

I still haven't heard anyone make a good suggestion other than keep him on the roster until his contract is over and then let him walk. His trade value is very low - almost nothing. Getting a good return is fanciful thinking.

He's been bad on the right wing. It's not occasional he scored from the left side which he is comfortable with. Todd should return him back to the 3rd line and try Boyd as a 1RW, imo it wouldn't be worse.

 

[Corby78]

would you trade him for a rental? Let's say, Panarin?

This is kinda my thought. At the trade deadline, put Bura + pick out there for an upgrade. Sell him as a young guy who has talent and just needs a change. Team may take a flyer because they get the pick and a still young guy with talent that maybe they can turn around. Contract isn't all that bad.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I agree but Burka isn't pulling back much, certainly not Donato. 2nd rounder IF the Caps get lucky. Unfortunately the rest of the NHL knows the bolded as well.

There’s almost always some GM who thinks they’re smarter and can get more out of a player.

I don’t see him getting moved this season.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Hmmmmmm I never said in that post that I dont like Niskanen.
Is that always your response? Niskanen had 2 points in this game so he is the greatest. So what. He had a good game. Does that make up for the 20 bad games he has had? I think not. Eller gets the same treatment here. A couple good games and he is a god. But people forget all the bad games.
There is no denying that that the bad has out weighed the good this season with those players this season. Orlov could probably be included with these guys as well.
All you have done is prove my point. Every time Niskanen or Eller has a decent game you guys let me know about it by pumping them up. But it really doesnt happen very often. Does it? Like I said they have far more bad games then good games.
I'd like to see them play well on a more consistent basis. That is my issue. For some reason you refuse to acknowledge that they have been inconsistent.
And why aren't you protecting Burakovsky. Everyone **** all over him in this thread lastnight but he scored the game winning goal.
BTW I never said a word about the way Niskanen played lastnight. He played well. He played the way he should be playing every game.

Hi Maaco

The team is in first in the Metro. They just won the Cup. 8-2 in their last 10 games.

However, based on your assessment, much of the team is playing poorly (or your new word....inconsistent), yet here they are. How can they all be playing this way (most of the defense, as you rail on Niskanen, Orlov, Djoos...and to a lesser extent, Kempny). The forwards you think are poor (Eller, Stephenson, DSP, Dowd) make up most of the bottom 6. Kuznetsov, Oshie, and Wilson have all missed a lot of time, so they arent winning due to them recently.

It must be goaltending? Your favourite son, Holtby? Nope, cant be that...he's having his worst statistical year....ever?

It must be coaching then? Nope...cant be that, as Trotz is coaching the Isles to an amazing start. Reirden is a boob, from what I've seen you say.

So.....this team must be in bottom tier of the division and conference. BUT, they arent. So.....what gives? All these poor players and coaches and yet #1 in Metro.

Maybe it's your assessments of the team and these players that is.... "inconsistent"?

 

[Corby78]

Hi Maaco

The team is in first in the Metro. They just won the Cup. 8-2 in their last 10 games.

However, based on your assessment, much of the team is playing poorly (or your new word....inconsistent), yet here they are. How can they all be playing this way (most of the defense, as you rail on Niskanen, Orlov, Djoos...and to a lesser extent, Kempny). The forwards you think are poor (Eller, Stephenson, DSP, Dowd) make up most of the bottom 6. Kuznetsov, Oshie, and Wilson have all missed a lot of time, so they arent winning due to them recently.

It must be goaltending? Your favourite son, Holtby? Well...he's having his worst statistical year....ever?

It must be coaching then? Nope...cant be that, as Trotz is coaching the Isles to an amazing start. Reirden is a boob, from what I've seen you say.

So.....this team must be in bottom tier of the division and conference. BUT, they arent. So.....what gives? All these poor players and coaches and yet #1 in Metro.

Maybe it's your assessments of the team and these playrers that are.... "inconsistent"?

 

[StrikingDistance]

I have no idea why people bother arguing with inanimate objects on here.

Let the weekend begin!

 

[Chukcha]

generally i do like the way the team is playing. We are definitely not peaking too early but getting points on a regular basis, Ovi hunting for a routine Rocket, Vrana shining, even Burt scoring... Boyd and Bowey getting confidence. What else do you need in early December? To burn villages like Atlantic teams and then to die in spring? This team grows wiser, they know exactly when the time has come to make a push.

 

[TRASHCAT]

8-2 in their last 10 but 1-2 in their last 3!!!