The theory I have is that despite Messier being one of the best players of all time without a doubt I cant help but think that if you remember his career on the physical side you think of the cheap shots and not the fights. Think about it. To me Messier was not a very good fighter. And compared to the cheap shots he dished out he never dropped the gloves quite as often. Think over his career. Jamie Macoun, Rich Sutter (I think it was Rich), both got serious cheap shots from him that resulted in suspensions. Mess took out four of Sutter's teeth with a high stick. Macoun was attacked and I forget the player who got speared in the groin back in the end of the '03-04 season by Mess. Now of course we all know he had intensity. He did anything to win. but can you remember any big fights he was in? I remember mostly the cheap shots, because I dont think he could fight his way out of a wet paper bag.