sandysan
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They are no centers, that's for sure!Puck moving D men are overrated, am I right Bergevin fans?
They are no centers, that's for sure!Puck moving D men are overrated, am I right Bergevin fans?
thats the thing, Habs have none since Subban is gone... An elite puckmover should be able to skate with the puck and support the offense and while Markov had elite vision and passing game, he wasnt skating much with that little rubber on his stick...
I have said this since last year, could it be, is it even remotely possible that OldCraig71 knows a thing or two about hockey?Lack of PMD could be one of major reasons for Pacioretty goal scoring decline last season.
Analyze This: Habs' lack of puck-moving rearguards stifling Pacioretty
Team is going to change. Forwards flying the zone on stretch passes is not how the Habs are going to play. Puck support is important for breakout. Wingers who can make simple plays, and not get run over or turn over the puck. What I would be looking for is defenseman who can join the rush, exploit odd man situations, and I think Petry, Reilly, Mete, and to a lesser extent Schlemko and Juulsen can all fill that role
There is not one other NHL team that would trade such players and that is what makes me grind my teeth and clench my fists!If only the team could draft guys like Subban and Sergachev.
There is not one other NHL team that would trade such players and that is what makes me grind my teeth and clench my fists!
I have said this since last year, could it be, is it even remotely possible that OldCraig71 knows a thing or two about hockey?
If and I mean if as an organisation you feel that you have absolutely no other choice but to trade these two players do you not talk with your management team and say, "this is not what we want to do but in the best long term interest of this franchise and our lack of depth at center we have to trade quality to get quality in return". Why in Gods name do you just trade two winning lotto tickets for a second prize and a cheap vacation? We gave away our golden tickets and got worse!!! Who does that? Bergevin has set this team back for 10 years with just those two trades alone!Those two alone make it so you can look at your D corps and say: "Yeah, we're pretty much set".
Well I don't know about OldCraig71 but Craig71 definitely knew a thing or two. Also OldBryson71 knew a thing or two as well. That article above got the idea from me!
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/thre...-go-go-edition.2385701/page-38#post-135713933
Oh I understand quite well. Subban and Markov liked to use the stretch pass to players like Paciroetty who liked to cherry pick at the opponents blue line. The forwards will now have to play deeper in our zone. Is there a defenseman currently on the team that can actually make a pass longer than 5 feet?
BOOM HEADSHOT!
Our GM has destroyed our D....................I still do not understand why this clown has a job...7 years in, and he now wants to build through the draft, and try to land a PMD...brilliant...only the Habs would keep a clown like this around.
I just turned a little greyer while typing this.
Filthy lmaoIf only the team could draft guys like Subban and Sergachev.
Kaiden Guhle pleaseMaybe we'll draft one in the next 5 years during our rebuild.
I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall on July 1st when they all realised that despite his elevated sense of self that no one else in the hockey world really cared! We will proclaim rebuild and while we are at it, we will release a statement that we do not intend to offer our captain a contract extension right in the midst of trying to trade him! I mean, how could you or me or anyone else do a worse job than Bergevin is currently doing? It's like we have embraced the anti-successful model of how to build a contending NHL team. I just turned a little greyer while typing this.
I personally think this should be the target of a Patch trade. LDs generally have low value league wide so we should be able to get one.
To the credit of Pacioretty I agree that he has always said the right things and this falls squarely on Bergevin, he has messed up yet another situation with a high profile player.Bergevin promised more transparency, we got more than we asked for.
Should have been one of those PR generic statements: "We highly value Max contribution and leadership and hope to negotiation a contract extension" even if in the background there is no intention of such.
Max did his generic part: "I enjoy playing in Montreal, future looks bright and hope to remain a Hab"
Maybe we'll draft one in the next 5 years during our rebuild.
We will but he'll be traded.
Beaulieu was useful at being the poster boy of what not to do.......he was awful through and through.I'm talking about a specific function of a player and not claiming Beaulieu was Godlike in that aspect either. However he still filled a void as a lower D pairing. MAB used to be terrible on D yet could still be useful in a very specific PMD role.
It was reported that Chuck had off ice issues but I would say that Nates were worse, he was sat out in game 6 in MSG because of an incident the night before in a NY night club. I think that there were other factors at play with this kid, I mean, I would watch him in amazement just for his skating ability alone, he should have been a great player. I have a friend that played in the Q when Nate was with Saint John and he says that Beau was amazingly fast and a sure star in the NHL. Things have been anything but for him, the way to save his career is to have him go to Pittsburgh, they seem to be great at turning water back into wine but I guess it helps when you have the best 1-2 centre duo in the world up front.Beaulieu was useful at being the poster boy of what not to do.......he was awful through and through.
Beaulieu was essentially a F1 car with an orangutan at the controls.
It's so mind boggling to me that Bergevin seems so obsessed with defensemen, adding them every chance he gets and always having an overabundance of them on payroll, but goes out of his way to actively ship out 3 of the highest potential Dman that hes ever had in his tenure. Subban, Sergachev, and Markov, all gone.
Like, wtf.
They don't play like marc did, therefore they arent the type of defense men marc wants... Gritter men who will win board battles and get "puck luck" where is that barf emoji?