Walk away number for the Sens with EK

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Frankly, I wouldn't walk from any number now. It'll be a PR disaster if he walks, no matter what. But more realistically, I think if it comes out that we offered 12M/yr and he said no, I'd be slightly more comfortable with the decision. Anything under 10M would be lowball. 10-12 seems like the right ballpark.

 

[OmniSens]

Anything above 12 is stupid.

 

[Mr Hat]

10.5 to 11M x 8yr is about what Karlsson is worth in my uninformed opinion. It seems like most teams in our cap situation would offer him that to stay.

I'm pessimistic enough that I'd bet on PD offering 9.5 to 10 as his "fair offer" which EK turns down and eventually is traded along side Ryan for an underwhelming return.

 

[Sensung]

I don't think they'll go over 11 Million, over 8 years.

They should also offer a full NMC, and make it retroactive, to cover the final year on his current contract.

They could also make his new contract "lockout/strike proof" by structuring the bonus payments to cover the season that a possible lockout of strike may be possible.

Count nailed the Doughty level contract.

Will Eugene go this far?

 

[aligator]

Count nailed the Doughty level contract.

Will Eugene go this far?

 

[aligator]

No...and he shouldn't. That would be stupid for the Sens.

 

[Sensung]

No...and he shouldn't. That would be stupid for the Sens.

Was it stupid for LA to sign Doughty?

 

[Runback]

Was it stupid for LA to sign Doughty?

Yes it was. He will age just as badly as Karlsson. But at least he's interested in playing defence. Sens absolutely need to move on from Karlsson.

 

[Sensung]

Yes it was. He will age just as badly as Karlsson. But at least he's interested in playing defence. Sens absolutely need to move on from Karlsson.

Couldn't disagree more.

When you have the opportunity to lock up a Doughty or EK for a reasonable contract you do so. Otherwise you just turn into a farm team for the rest of the league.

 

[Runback]

Couldn't disagree more.

When you have the opportunity to lock up a Doughty or EK for a reasonable contract you do so. Otherwise you just turn into a farm team for the rest of the league.

I realize I'm almost a lone voice. But if we overpay for a brilliant offenceman who can't play defence then we how do we sign Stone and Duchene, or anyone else? THAT is when we become a farm team. But, again, i know I'm pretty much alone on this island.

 

[Sensung]

I realize I'm almost a lone voice. But if we overpay for a brilliant offenceman who can't play defence then we how do we sign Stone and Duchene, or anyone else? THAT is when we become a farm team. But, again, i know I'm pretty much alone on this island.

No problem with you seeing things differently. So if Doughty and EK aren't worthy of 11M per, do you think any players merit that much money?

I also think your evaluation of EK is heavily flawed.

 

[pt_mck]

Doughty signed for 8 years $88M

 

[Runback]

No problem with you seeing things differently. So if Doughty and EK aren't worthy of 11M per, do you think any players merit that much money?

I also think your evaluation of EK is heavily flawed.

I can't think of many huge contracts where any team is not handcuffed for the back half of it. McDavid's a notable exception of course due to age. And I probably am being harder in my evaluation than I should, probably just for emphasis. But I've seen him make so many poor decisions and sometimes not even look like he cared in his own zone, that I can't condone top dollar for that. He's on the ice ALL of the time, and we always have defensive problems. Must be a link, no? Having said that, he was a warrior in our playoff run. Along with Bobby.

 

[benjiv1]

With Eugene restructuring the debt, and moving out Hoffman, buying out Burrows and possibly trading Anderson, I think Pierre could offer Karlsson something competitive.

Karlsson’s affect on attendance will easily cover the additional cost to keep him. I would argue that the contract should be front loaded so that if his play declines towards the end of the deal, you aren’t necessarily over paying and could move him if necessary.

8X11 structured as:
13, 13, 12, 12, 10, 10, 9, 9

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

We have a new EK signing thread so I guess this one isnt needed. Closed.