Proposal: W. Nylander, Kerfoot, N. Robertson For B. Tkachuk

[ER89]

Yooooo I was wondering why everyone wasn't crapping on the leafs for this and then I re-read and it said B tkachuk LOL.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Well, Ottawa probably WOULD take this deal, as they are already like one of Toronto's farm system teams & love to get any of the players the Leafs are done with on their roster.

But it's way too much for Toronto to give up.

So...........decline.

 

[koyvoo]

Personally I’d prefer Tkachuk. He has better tools than his brother and his brother is definitely worth more than the package being offered. Brady could turn out better than Matt.

 

[DFF]

what lol

They forgot how soft nylander is especially playoffs time

 

[Leaf Fans]

They forgot how soft nylander is especially playoffs time

It is not factual, so they wouldn't forget.

 

[sufferer]

Why would we want his skates?

For the foot... people.

 

[ACC1224]

Toronto would probably not even take Tkachuk for Nylander straight up without any other additions
.

Probably not? They would do that in a heartbeat.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Who was the last player to return this much?

Who was the last guy drafted top 5, who scored 20 goals in his post draft season while being a physical beast and a likely future captain, who was traded less than a month into the following season by his rebuilding club?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Nylander has more raw skill...but Brady is quickly turning into the heart & soul of the Sens. The kid is already a fan favorite and brings a unique skillset to the NHL that only a handful of guys in the league have.

Ask Washington fans how much it would take for them to move Tom Wilson right after they won the Cup.

 

[bert]

Toronto would probably not even take Tkachuk for Nylander straight up without any other additions
.

Lol in what world.

Big no from the sens thanks.

 

[hilarnat]

Neither team does that trade, obviously.
Melnyk won't spend a dime more than he's obligated to and well, the value is way off from TOR perspective.

 

[bert]

Nylander (on a stretch) alone is worth Tkachuk

Nope not in any realm of reality that a leaf fan doesnt live in. He is so perimiter you couldnt find more opposite players in the league. When Tkachuk is done developing he is going to be an absolute force. He already impacts a game way more than Nylander. Sens need elite assets not secondary pieces they have lots of those and lots of assets coming that can land those types of players.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Tzachuk is probably the best player in the trade but the Leafs would still have to say no. One reason is the Leaf don't have good centre depth. Losing Kerfoot would force who....Gauthier or Shore in the 3C. Heck Nylander is probably next up at centre if either one of the top three centres are injured.
Thinking long term, the Leafs probably like the 10.5m combined contracts for Kerfoot and Nylander.
If Nylander (or Kapanen or Johnson) were to be traded, it would be for a Dman.

 

[bert]

Well, Ottawa probably WOULD take this deal, as they are already like one of Toronto's farm system teams & love to get any of the players the Leafs are done with on their roster.

But it's way too much for Toronto to give up.

So...........decline.

No chance in hell ottawa takes this deal.

 

[bert]

It is not factual, so they wouldn't forget.

I guess you just didnt watch the games or dont understand hockey. Its one of the two.

Hey leaf fans how about White, Tierney, Pinto and a 2nd for Marner. Oh you dont want to do it? Ok no problem I dont blame you.

 

[Just Linda]

I disagree with most of the people here it seems. Take out Kerfoot (a redundancy for Ottawa) and it fits a need. Ottawa needs a 1c more than anything. Nylander isn't one but could fill as one. Who knows, he could even become one long term until Ottawa drafts one.

Toronto might lose a lot of offensive production in this trade but gains playoff grit. Toronto is built for the first 82 games of the year, Tkachuk is built for the other 28.

Nylander ++ for Tkachuk seems like a great trade to me

 

[Leaf Fans]

I guess you just didnt watch the games or dont understand hockey. Its one of the two.

Hey leaf fans how about White, Tierney, Pinto and a 2nd for Marner. Oh you dont want to do it? Ok no problem I dont blame you.

It is neither of the two.

No, no one would want to do that. No blame to go around.

 

[Leaf Fans]

No chance in hell ottawa takes this deal.

They can make the offer, but the Leafs decline.

 

[bert]

They can make the offer, but the Leafs decline.

The leafs take it and run the only team that says no is Ottawa.

 

[bert]

I disagree with most of the people here it seems. Take out Kerfoot (a redundancy for Ottawa) and it fits a need. Ottawa needs a 1c more than anything. Nylander isn't one but could fill as one. Who knows, he could even become one long term until Ottawa drafts one.

Toronto might lose a lot of offensive production in this trade but gains playoff grit. Toronto is built for the first 82 games of the year, Tkachuk is built for the other 28.

Nylander ++ for Tkachuk seems like a great trade to me

Not for the sens. 0 interest at Nylander and the extra fluff for a player like Tkachuk.

 

[Morbo]

The leafs take it and run the only team that says no is Ottawa.

 

[Leaf Fans]

The leafs take it and run the only team that says no is Ottawa.

That is not true.

 

[bert]

That is not true.

Yes it is and here is why. Tkachuk is exactly the type of player the leafs need they just arent getting him for that package.

The confusion here lies in leaf fans thinking Kerfoot Robertson and the 2nd really carry any extra value for Ottawa. The sens have 5 second round picks in the next 2 drafts. They just drafted 3 players ahead of Robertson last year (i like the player but he doesnt fill a need). At center they have White, Brown, Tierney, Pageau, Chlapik, Ansimov, and Norris. There is absolutely no need for Kerfoot, he brings nothing they dont already have.

So ultimately its Tkachuk for Nylander which only the most biased Leaf fan would possibly think that Nylander carries more value. He has been an absolute no show in the playoffs and is a complimentary piece. Tkachuk is already a way more impactful player and has way more developing to go. He is a force already and plays with White and a fill in plug. Tkachuk isnt close to being done he put on 15 pounds last year and is still growing. While Nylander as a smaller skilled player is ptetty much finished developing. The sens need elite first line players not going to be doing a quantity for quality trade when the team has so little quality to begin with.

So ill say it again would the leafs do White, Tierney, Pinto and a 2nd for Marner? No they wouldnt same package as the leafs have provided for the sens.

 

[Just Linda]

Not for the sens. 0 interest at Nylander and the extra fluff for a player like Tkachuk.

I think then we would agree to disagree. You win down the middle this league, most teams are better with Tkachuk but teams like Arizona and Ottawa would more with a centre than a winger at this point.

 

[bert]

I think then we would agree to disagree. You win down the middle this league, most teams are better with Tkachuk but teams like Arizona and Ottawa would more with a centre than a winger at this point.

Nylander doesnt play center........ And if you watch him its easy to identify why he hates the middle of the ice. Tkachuk plays in the middle of the ice way more. I dont dissagree the centers are more impactful but that has nothing to do with this deal. Tkachuk pulls his team into the battle Ottawa needs this type of player. They are going to finish in the bottom 3 for sure atleast this season probably next too. They have 9 picks in the first 3 rounds in the next 2 drafts plus more assets to trade. They will have a chance to aquire a center not at the expense of the best forward on the team they just drafted 4th overall.