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Cause Nylander is not that good and Mittlestadt will be the better player in 2-3 years.Lol why?
Cause Nylander is not that good and Mittlestadt will be the better player in 2-3 years.Lol why?
Cause Nylander is not that good and Mittlestadt will be the better player in 2-3 years.
Nothing is for certain obviously but I have no desire to watch Mitts put up 70-80 points on a cup winning Toronto team while Nylander frustrates the fans here with his soft skill game that disappears when the games get tough.Maybe he won’t
Maybe in 15 years, after Nylander retires.Cause Nylander is not that good and Mittlestadt will be the better player in 2-3 years.
If we really wanted Nylander, shouldn't we just make an offer sheet and give up the draft compensation, instead of trading away a player like Casey?
Stay in the 1st, 2nd + 3rd range - 7 mil for 5 years
$0 - $1,339,575 | No Compensation |
$1,339,576 - $2,029,659 | 1 Third Round Pick |
$4,059,323 - $6,088,980 | 1 First Round Pick 1 Third Round Pick |
$10,148,303+ | 4 First Round Picks |
I wouldn't give 4 first round picks for Eichel or McDavid. Let alone Nylander .
For Mr. Mollasses? In a heart beat. Anyone ever give a logical educated guess what those 4 first round picks would have turned out to be? What draft number and what players?Weould you have taken the 4 first round picks for Vanek back in the day?
For Mr. Mollasses? In a heart beat. Anyone ever give a logical educated guess what those 4 first round picks would have turned out to be? What draft number and what players?
For Mr. Mollasses? In a heart beat. Anyone ever give a logical educated guess what those 4 first round picks would have turned out to be? What draft number and what players?
Is that a better core than we have now?It's all conjecture because you don't know if the Oilers improve with Vanek.
The OS was in 2007 (after the 2007 Draft). So, the picks would have been 2008-2011.
If Vanek doesn't move the needle, those picks were:
2008 - 13th overall [Went to LA in trade] (Teubert) <BPA: Erik Karlsson @ 15>
2009 - 10th overall (MPS) <BPA: Ryan O'Reilly @ 33>
2010 - 1st overall (Hall) <BPA: Hall or Seguin...>
2011 - 1st overall (RNH) <BPA: Kucherov or Landeskog or Gaudreau or Scheifele...>
Is that a better core than we have now?
ughh cap space...Nylander wants some money.Wow. I think I would do it, It would give us a 2C right now with 70 point potential. We will be lucky if Mittlestadt turns into Nylander, small chance of Mittlestadt being better but is that small chance of Mittlestadt being better the reason to hold off from a guaranteed 2C now? If it is than that might be the reason to turn this down.
Is that a better core than we have now?
There are too many variables to really comment.
You don't know where the Oilers or Sabres picks end up because Vanek leaves Buffalo and goes to Edmonton.
You don't know who the Sabres use all the picks on.
They wouldn't get hindsight 20/20 BPA with every pick.
For instance, if the Sabres had 12, 13 (Vanek OS), and 26 in 2008, they could have come away with Tyler Myers, Erik Karlsson, and John Carlson.
There is the core of one of the best D cores in the NHL for a decade right there.
If they are picking at 10 (EDM) & 13 in 2009, they could have taken O'Reilly and Nick Leddy.
If Edmonton still bottoms out with Vanek and the Sabres pick 1 (EDM) & 23 in 2010, they could have taken Taylor Hall and Kuznetsov.
And if they have 1 and 16 in 2011, they could have Landeskog and Kucherov.
So, you get O'Reilly and Kuznetsov at center, Hall, Landeskog, and Kucherov on the wing, and Myers, Karlsson, Carlson, and Leddy on D.
That is an alternate reality that would have been fun to watch play out. But, there is like a 0.000000001% chance things would have played out just like that.
I'm ignorant when it comes to those compensations. Why are there gaps? If we offer $7M there's no compensation?I think Nylander wants $8M+ on a long term deal.
And Toronto matches any short term bridge OS.
Besides, the Sabres don't own their 2019 2nd, so they can't make that OS offer.
Offer Sheet Calculator - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
The Sabres can only make these OS offers today:
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$0 - $1,339,575 No Compensation [TBODY] [/TBODY]
$1,339,576 - $2,029,659 1 Third Round Pick [TBODY] [/TBODY]
$4,059,323 - $6,088,980 1 First Round Pick
1 Third Round Pick[TBODY] [/TBODY]
$10,148,303+ 4 First Round Picks
I'm ignorant when it comes to those compensations. Why are there gaps? If we offer $7M there's no compensation?