Choralone
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I dunno. Is not beating your wife such a high bar? I've managed to go my whole life without beating my wife or girlfriends.
That's where you're wrong. If this was done in a more timely manner he would easily find work in the NHL. the only reason why he might not get signed is because of his age and time away from the NHL.
I dunno. Is not beating your wife such a high bar? I've managed to go my whole life without beating my wife or girlfriends.
Isn't it Bobby Hull that's the well known abuser? Or did stuff come out about Brett too?Both are guilty of misdemeanors. We can quibble over the extent but both cases are physical abuse. I don't care if one was a push or the other was a punch. The league hasn't exactly distanced itself from Brett Hull either, a well documented spousal abuser.
If we're going to engage in "whataboutism", what about Patrik Bartošák? The poor guy didn't even get a chance to blossom and play in the NHL.
No you're right. It was Bobby. Brett was on the receiving end.Isn't it Bobby Hull that's the well known abuser? Or did stuff come out about Brett too?
I've managed to go my whole life without drinking and driving. What's your point?I dunno. Is not beating your wife such a high bar? I've managed to go my whole life without beating my wife or girlfriends.
I am assuming you are talking Watson. With that though, how do you compare a couple that is arguing and the GF ends up with some red marks on her chest vs a guy who made a bloody mess of his wife. To save on the argument of her lack of proper English skills we wont talk about what she really said, but the evidence of red marks vs blood is totally apples and bananas.
Yes, the Flowers case is horrible. VV is an outrageous miscarriage of sports justice. Just keeping it in perspective.If you want an outrageous miscarriage of justice, google Curtis Flowers.
I dunno. Is not beating your wife such a high bar? I've managed to go my whole life without beating my wife or girlfriends.
I was talking about several incidents over the years. All of them include people forgiving them in some way, sometimes blaming the victim, sometimes resting on the court's judgment, etc. in order to socially excuse the crime to some degree. Voynov's is unique in that people choose to believe only the worst parts while ignoring the verdict, and thus the 'worst' suspension otherwise got 18 games, while Voynov is getting the equivalent of 410+. Trash.
I don't even want him on this team but to pretend that what Voynov did is literally 25x worse than what Watson did is folly, and Dany Heatley had a fine career after literally killing someone, Bobby Hull is still an ambassador, Patrick Kane is still the marketable lovable kid, etc. I just hate the selective application of justice and the NHL has literally no basis since they have literally no policy.
How do you compare a car accident in 2004 to an intentional act in 2015 or the lack same punishment in the NHL for those? Kane, or any of those others, i am not championing for them. It’s it no different than Doughty being accused of rape with no consequences is it? Sometimes stuff is gray. I think this is pretty black and white though.
While we can stand and say the conviction was the same with Austin, the only reason is because the DA knew he wouldn’t be able to get Varlamova to testify and the case was dead for the original charges.
He plead and got lucky to be out of a felony. It’s the same system that found OJ innocent. The lack of conviction doesn’t overturn the truth. I guess it’s a matter of who you really believe and can prove. I tend to believe the reports from the scene. I don’t think they were made up. I don’t tend to believe the rich guy with high prices lawyers and hush money who are cleared on technicality’s.
I have no doubt that the NHL has seen all the real evidence we may not be privy to. I am sure he bloodied her, choked her and had also done that before.
Had Voynov stayed done his jail time, faced the music then, then it may be a different story. Instead he plead, headed back to Russia voluntarily to avoid deportation and basically ran. We can act like 410 games is a lot but the guy has never been punished. Hell, he made a **** ton more money in Russia, even played in the Olympics.
Punishing him while he played in the KHL is about as stupid as suspending a starting pitcher for 5 games. And 60 days in the Seal Beach watching TV and playing xbox does not count as jail.
Everything about the way it went down stinks. Playing in the NHL is a privilege and should be treated as so.
Like i said before, its all a show to give the impression tehy care... I'm sticking to the all-star game prediction..No surprise there.
How do you compare a car accident in 2004 to an intentional act in 2015 or the lack same punishment in the NHL for those? Kane, or any of those others, i am not championing for them. It’s it no different than Doughty being accused of rape with no consequences is it? Sometimes stuff is gray. I think this is pretty black and white though.
While we can stand and say the conviction was the same with Austin, the only reason is because the DA knew he wouldn’t be able to get Varlamova to testify and the case was dead for the original charges.
He plead and got lucky to be out of a felony. It’s the same system that found OJ innocent. The lack of conviction doesn’t overturn the truth. I guess it’s a matter of who you really believe and can prove. I tend to believe the reports from the scene. I don’t think they were made up. I don’t tend to believe the rich guy with high prices lawyers and hush money who are cleared on technicality’s.
I have no doubt that the NHL has seen all the real evidence we may not be privy to. I am sure he bloodied her, choked her and had also done that before.
Had Voynov stayed done his jail time, faced the music then, then it may be a different story. Instead he plead, headed back to Russia voluntarily to avoid deportation and basically ran. We can act like 410 games is a lot but the guy has never been punished. Hell, he made a **** ton more money in Russia, even played in the Olympics.
Punishing him while he played in the KHL is about as stupid as suspending a starting pitcher for 5 games. And 60 days in the Seal Beach watching TV and playing xbox does not count as jail.
Everything about the way it went down stinks. Playing in the NHL is a privilege and should be treated as so.
[Heatley]pleaded guilty to second-degree vehicular homicide, driving too fast for conditions, failure to maintain a lane and speeding. He admitted to drinking prior to the incident, but his blood-alcohol content was below the legal limit.
Per Wikipedia,
So it was less about him drunk-driving and more just driving like a not-uncommon idiotic young male driver.