Voting Record - BenchBrawl, bobholly39

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Voter	Rank	Player	Points		1		2
BenchBrawl	1	Bobby Orr	120	1	Gordie Howe	1	Maurice Richard
BenchBrawl	2	Gordie Howe	119	2	Bobby Orr	2	Jean Beliveau
BenchBrawl	3	Wayne Gretzky	118	3	Wayne Gretzky	3	Bobby Hull
BenchBrawl	4	Maurice Richard	117	4	Mario Lemieux	4	Doug Harvey
BenchBrawl	5	Mario Lemieux	116	5	Maurice Richard	5	Patrick Roy
BenchBrawl	6	Jean Beliveau	115	6	Jean Beliveau	6	Howie Morenz
BenchBrawl	7	Doug Harvey	114	7	Doug Harvey	7	Sidney Crosby
BenchBrawl	8	Patrick Roy	113	8	Patrick Roy	8	Eddie Shore
BenchBrawl	9	Sidney Crosby	112	9	Bobby Hull	9	Ray Bourque
BenchBrawl	10	Bobby Hull	111	10	Ray Bourque	10	Dominik Hasek
BenchBrawl	11	Howie Morenz	110		3		4
BenchBrawl	12	Eddie Shore	109	1	Howie Morenz	1	Jacques Plante
BenchBrawl	13	Jacques Plante	108	2	Sidney Crosby	2	Frank Nighbor
BenchBrawl	14	Frank Nighbor	107	3	Eddie Shore	3	Guy Lafleur
BenchBrawl	15	Guy Lafleur	106	4	Jacques Plante	4	Mark Messier
BenchBrawl	16	Denis Potvin	105	5	Mark Messier	5	Denis Potvin
BenchBrawl	17	Mark Messier	104	6	Denis Potvin	6	Red Kelly
BenchBrawl	18	Ray Bourque	103	7	Ray Bourque	7	Jaromir Jagr
BenchBrawl	19	Jaromir Jagr	102	8	Alex Ovechkin	8	Alex Ovechkin
BenchBrawl	20	Alex Ovechkin	101	9	Jaromir Jagr	9	Phil Esposito
BenchBrawl	21	Bobby Clarke	100	10	Dominik Hasek	10	Stan Mikita
BenchBrawl	22	Phil Esposito	99		5		6
BenchBrawl	23	Dominik Hasek	98	1	Frank Nighbor	1	Bobby Clarke
BenchBrawl	24	Stan Mikita	97	2	Guy Lafleur	2	Viacheslav Fetisov
BenchBrawl	25	Glenn Hall	96	3	Mark Messier	3	Martin Brodeur
BenchBrawl	26	Terry Sawchuk	95	4	Martin Brodeur	4	Bryan Trottier
BenchBrawl	27	Joe Sakic	94	5	Bobby Clarke	5	Phil Esposito
BenchBrawl	28	Martin Brodeur	93	6	Alex Ovechkin	6	Terry Sawchuk
BenchBrawl	29	Nicklas Lidstrom	92	7	Stan Mikita	7	Sergei Makarov
BenchBrawl	30	Bryan Trottier	91	8	Viacheslav Fetisov	8	Joe Sakic
BenchBrawl	31	Cyclone Taylor	90	9	Glenn Hall	9	Cyclone Taylor
BenchBrawl	32	Newsy Lalonde	89	10	Terry Sawchuk	10	Glenn Hall
BenchBrawl	33	Henri Richard	88		7		8
BenchBrawl	34	Red Kelly	87	1	Martin Brodeur	1	Terry Sawchuk
BenchBrawl	35	Larry Robinson	86	2	Bryan Trottier	2	Larry Robinson
BenchBrawl	36	Mike Bossy	85	3	Terry Sawchuk	3	Newsy Lalonde
BenchBrawl	37	Sergei Makarov	84	4	Bill Cook	4	Ken Dryden
BenchBrawl	38	Frank Boucher	83	5	Joe Sakic	5	Mike Bossy
BenchBrawl	39	Steve Yzerman	82	6	Larry Robinson	6	Steve Yzerman
BenchBrawl	40	Viacheslav Fetisov	81	7	Cyclone Taylor	7	Ted Lindsay
BenchBrawl	41	Bill Cook	80	8	Newsy Lalonde	8	Chris Chelios
BenchBrawl	42	Sprague Cleghorn	79	9	Mike Bossy	9	Paul Coffey
BenchBrawl	43	Chris Chelios	78	10	Steve Yzerman	10	Brad Park
BenchBrawl	44	Paul Coffey	77		9		10
BenchBrawl	45	Ken Dryden	76	1	Henri Richard	1	Henri Richard
BenchBrawl	46	Brad Park	75	2	Frank Boucher	2	Ken Dryden
BenchBrawl	47	King Clancy	74	3	King Clancy	3	Syl Apps
BenchBrawl	48	Scott Stevens	73	4	Ken Dryden	4	Vladislav Tretiak
BenchBrawl	49	Ted Lindsay	72	5	Syl Apps	5	Milt Schmidt
BenchBrawl	50	Pierre Pilote	71	6	Chris Chelios	6	Peter Forsberg
BenchBrawl	51	Ted Kennedy	70	7	Vladislav Tretiak	7	Brad Park
BenchBrawl	52	Syl Apps	69	8	Valeri Kharlamov	8	Charlie Conacher
BenchBrawl	53	Chris Pronger	68	9	Brad Park	9	Pierre Pilote
BenchBrawl	54	Al MacInnis	67	10	Paul Coffey	10	Bernie Geoffrion
BenchBrawl	55	Vladislav Tretiak	66		11		12
BenchBrawl	56	Serge Savard	65	1	Vladislav Tretiak	1	Ted Kennedy
BenchBrawl	57	Tim Horton	64	2	Milt Schmidt	2	Sprague Cleghorn
BenchBrawl	58	Valeri Kharlamov	63	3	Peter Forsberg	3	Chris Pronger
BenchBrawl	59	Charlie Conacher	62	4	Evgeni Malkin	4	Frank Brimsek
BenchBrawl	60	Evgeni Malkin	61	5	Frank Brimsek	5	Tim Horton
BenchBrawl	61	Milt Schmidt	60	6	Pierre Pilote	6	Charlie Conacher
BenchBrawl	62	Peter Forsberg	59	7	Charlie Conacher	7	Earl Seibert
BenchBrawl	63	Earl Seibert	58	8	Bernie Geoffrion	8	Bernie Geoffrion
BenchBrawl	64	Bill Gadsby	57	9	Earl Seibert	9	Frank Mahovlich
BenchBrawl	65	Zdeno Chara	56	10	Marcel Dionne	10	Andy Bathgate
BenchBrawl	66	Eddie Gerard	55		13		14
BenchBrawl	67	Joe Malone	54	1	Scott Stevens	1	Tim Horton
BenchBrawl	68	Bernie Geoffrion	53	2	Tim Horton	2	Joe Malone
BenchBrawl	69	Dickie Moore	52	3	Georges Vezina	3	Georges Vezina
BenchBrawl	70	Cy Denneny	51	4	Earl Seibert	4	Al MacInnis
BenchBrawl	71	Charlie Gardiner	50	5	Bernie Geoffrion	5	Clint Benedict
BenchBrawl	72	Borje Salming	49	6	Marcel Dionne	6	Dickie Moore
BenchBrawl	73	Frank Brimsek	48	7	Al MacInnis	7	Cy Denneny
BenchBrawl	74	Duncan Keith	47	8	Frank Mahovlich	8	Dit Clapper
BenchBrawl	75	Jari Kurri	46	9	Andy Bathgate	9	Frank Mahovlich
BenchBrawl	76	Boris Mikhailov	45	10	Teemu Selanne	10	Teemu Selanne
BenchBrawl	77	Frank Mahovlich	44				16
BenchBrawl	78	Andy Bathgate	43			1	Charlie Gardiner
BenchBrawl	79	Dit Clapper	42			2	Aurele Joliat
BenchBrawl	80	Dave Keon	41			3	Cy Denneny
BenchBrawl	81	Georges Vezina	40			4	Jari Kurri
BenchBrawl	82	Aurele Joliat	39			5	Max Bentley
BenchBrawl	83	Brian Leetch	38			6	Turk Broda
BenchBrawl	84	Valeri Vasiliev	37			7	Boris Mikhailov
BenchBrawl	85	Drew Doughty	36			8	Brett Hull
BenchBrawl	86	Russell Bowie	35			9	Sergei Fedorov
BenchBrawl	87	Marcel Dionne	34			10	Bill Durnan
BenchBrawl	88	Martin St. Louis	33		17		18
BenchBrawl	89	Nels Stewart	32	1	Bill Gadsby	1	Zdeno Chara
BenchBrawl	90	Patrick Kane	31	2	Turk Broda	2	Bill Cowley
BenchBrawl	91	Jacques Lemaire	30	3	Borje Salming	3	Bill Gadsby
BenchBrawl	92	Mark Howe	29	4	Nels Stewart	4	Nels Stewart
BenchBrawl	93	Guy Lapointe	28	5	Elmer Lach	5	Eric Lindros
BenchBrawl	94	Elmer Lach	27	6	Boris Mikhailov	6	Boris Mikhailov
BenchBrawl	95	Alex Delvecchio	26	7	Brian Leetch	7	Ed Belfour
BenchBrawl	96	Max Bentley	25	8	Brett Hull	8	Duncan Keith
BenchBrawl	97	Sid Abel	24	9	Sergei Fedorov	9	Brian Leetch
BenchBrawl	98	Norm Ullman	23	10	Bill Durnan	10	Sergei Fedorov
BenchBrawl	99	Doug Gilmour	22		19		20
BenchBrawl	100	Sergei Fedorov	21	1	Bill Gadsby	1	Eddie Gerard
BenchBrawl	101	Jonathan Toews	20	2	Eddie Gerard	2	Serge Savard
BenchBrawl	102	Georges Boucher	19	3	Serge Savard	3	Dave Keon
BenchBrawl	103	Bill Quackenbush	18	4	Dave Keon	4	Mark Howe
BenchBrawl	104	Teemu Selanne	17	5	Nels Stewart	5	Eric Lindros
BenchBrawl	105	Eric Lindros	16	6	Eric Lindros	6	Brian Leetch
BenchBrawl	106	Erik Karlsson	15	7	Brian Leetch	7	Jarome Iginla
BenchBrawl	107	Clint Benedict	14	8	Patrick Kane	8	Sid Abel
BenchBrawl	108	Ebbie Goodfellow	13	9	Duncan Keith	9	Bernie Parent
BenchBrawl	109	Mike Modano	12	10	Jarome Iginla	10	Erik Karlsson
BenchBrawl	110	Bill Cowley	11		21
BenchBrawl	111	Rod Langway	10	1	Eddie Gerard
BenchBrawl	112	Hod Stuart	9	2	Serge Savard
BenchBrawl	113	Anatoli Firsov	8	3	Russell Bowie
BenchBrawl	114	Harry Cameron	7	4	Sid Abel
BenchBrawl	115	Anze Kopitar	6	5	Jarome Iginla
BenchBrawl	116	Brett Hull	5	6	Doug Gilmour
BenchBrawl	117	Jarome Iginla	4	7	Bernie Parent
BenchBrawl	118	Turk Broda	3	8	Erik Karlsson
BenchBrawl	119	Ed Belfour	2	9	Norm Ullman
BenchBrawl	120	Bernie Parent	1	10	Toe Blake
Voter	Rank	Player	Points		1		2
bobholly39	1	Wayne Gretzky	120	1	Wayne Gretzky	1	Patrick Roy
bobholly39	2	Bobby Orr	119	2	Mario Lemieux	2	Jean Beliveau
bobholly39	3	Mario Lemieux	118	3	Bobby Orr	3	Sidney Crosby
bobholly39	4	Gordie Howe	117	4	Gordie Howe	4	Bobby Hull
bobholly39	5	Sidney Crosby	116	5	Patrick Roy	5	Maurice Richard
bobholly39	6	Patrick Roy	115	6	Jean Beliveau	6	Howie Morenz
bobholly39	7	Jean Beliveau	114	7	Doug Harvey	7	Doug Harvey
bobholly39	8	Jaromir Jagr	113	8	Maurice Richard	8	Dominik Hasek
bobholly39	9	Doug Harvey	112	9	Bobby Hull	9	Ray Bourque
bobholly39	10	Maurice Richard	111	10	Ray Bourque	10	Eddie Shore
bobholly39	11	Dominik Hasek	110		3		4
bobholly39	12	Bobby Hull	109	1	Sidney Crosby	1	Jaromir Jagr
bobholly39	13	Jacques Plante	108	2	Jaromir Jagr	2	Phil Esposito
bobholly39	14	Ray Bourque	107	3	Dominik Hasek	3	Red Kelly
bobholly39	15	Alex Ovechkin	106	4	Howie Morenz	4	Alex Ovechkin
bobholly39	16	Guy Lafleur	105	5	Alex Ovechkin	5	Guy Lafleur
bobholly39	17	Phil Esposito	104	6	Ray Bourque	6	Nicklas Lidstrom
bobholly39	18	Stan Mikita	103	7	Nicklas Lidstrom	7	Mark Messier
bobholly39	19	Nicklas Lidstrom	102	8	Mark Messier	8	Frank Nighbor
bobholly39	20	Howie Morenz	101	9	Eddie Shore	9	Jacques Plante
bobholly39	21	Eddie Shore	100	10	Jacques Plante	10	Denis Potvin
bobholly39	22	Denis Potvin	99		5		6
bobholly39	23	Mark Messier	98	1	Alex Ovechkin	1	Phil Esposito
bobholly39	24	Martin Brodeur	97	2	Guy Lafleur	2	Sergei Makarov
bobholly39	25	Sergei Makarov	96	3	Phil Esposito	3	Martin Brodeur
bobholly39	26	Paul Coffey	95	4	Mark Messier	4	Glenn Hall
bobholly39	27	Mike Bossy	94	5	Martin Brodeur	5	Viacheslav Fetisov
bobholly39	28	Terry Sawchuk	93	6	Frank Nighbor	6	Joe Sakic
bobholly39	29	Red Kelly	92	7	Viacheslav Fetisov	7	Bobby Clarke
bobholly39	30	Viacheslav Fetisov	91	8	Stan Mikita	8	Mike Bossy
bobholly39	31	Joe Sakic	90	9	Glenn Hall	9	Terry Sawchuk
bobholly39	32	Bobby Clarke	89	10	Bobby Clarke	10	Bryan Trottier
bobholly39	33	Chris Chelios	88		7		8
bobholly39	34	Steve Yzerman	87	1	Martin Brodeur	1	Paul Coffey
bobholly39	35	Glenn Hall	86	2	Joe Sakic	2	Terry Sawchuk
bobholly39	36	Frank Nighbor	85	3	Mike Bossy	3	Steve Yzerman
bobholly39	37	Ken Dryden	84	4	Terry Sawchuk	4	Mike Bossy
bobholly39	38	Peter Forsberg	83	5	Steve Yzerman	5	Larry Robinson
bobholly39	39	Evgeni Malkin	82	6	Bryan Trottier	6	Newsy Lalonde
bobholly39	40	Vladislav Tretiak	81	7	Bill Cook	7	Ken Dryden
bobholly39	41	Larry Robinson	80	8	Cyclone Taylor	8	Chris Chelios
bobholly39	42	Cyclone Taylor	79	9	Larry Robinson	9	Ted Lindsay
bobholly39	43	Pierre Pilote	78	10	Newsy Lalonde	10	Brad Park
bobholly39	44	Brett Hull	77		9		10
bobholly39	45	Bill Cook	76	1	Paul Coffey	1	Paul Coffey
bobholly39	46	Ted Lindsay	75	2	Chris Chelios	2	Ken Dryden
bobholly39	47	Bryan Trottier	74	3	Ken Dryden	3	Henri Richard
bobholly39	48	Henri Richard	73	4	Henri Richard	4	Peter Forsberg
bobholly39	49	Chris Pronger	72	5	Syl Apps	5	Bernie Geoffrion
bobholly39	50	Marcel Dionne	71	6	Valeri Kharlamov	6	Syl Apps
bobholly39	51	Newsy Lalonde	70	7	Vladislav Tretiak	7	Vladislav Tretiak
bobholly39	52	Georges Vezina	69	8	Brad Park	8	Brad Park
bobholly39	53	Turk Broda	68	9	Charlie Conacher	9	Charlie Conacher
bobholly39	54	Jari Kurri	67	10	Frank Boucher	10	Milt Schmidt
bobholly39	55	Frank Boucher	66		11		12
bobholly39	56	Sergei Fedorov	65	1	Evgeni Malkin	1	Chris Pronger
bobholly39	57	Bernie Geoffrion	64	2	Peter Forsberg	2	Frank Brimsek
bobholly39	58	Ed Belfour	63	3	Vladislav Tretiak	3	Marcel Dionne
bobholly39	59	Frank Brimsek	62	4	Frank Brimsek	4	Ted Kennedy
bobholly39	60	Doug Gilmour	61	5	Marcel Dionne	5	Bernie Geoffrion
bobholly39	61	Pavel Bure	60	6	Bernie Geoffrion	6	Charlie Conacher
bobholly39	62	Ted Kennedy	59	7	Charlie Conacher	7	Sprague Cleghorn
bobholly39	63	Erik Karlsson	58	8	Milt Schmidt	8	Tim Horton
bobholly39	64	Zdeno Chara	57	9	Pierre Pilote	9	Andy Bathgate
bobholly39	65	Duncan Keith	56	10	Earl Seibert	10	Earl Seibert
bobholly39	66	Ron Francis	55		13		14
bobholly39	67	Scott Niedermayer	54	1	Al MacInnis	1	Georges Vezina
bobholly39	68	Brad Park	53	2	Scott Stevens	2	Dickie Moore
bobholly39	69	Henrik Lundqvist	52	3	Bernie Geoffrion	3	Teemu Selanne
bobholly39	70	Roberto Luongo	51	4	Marcel Dionne	4	Tim Horton
bobholly39	71	Brian Leetch	50	5	Earl Seibert	5	Al MacInnis
bobholly39	72	Scott Stevens	49	6	Tim Horton	6	Joe Malone
bobholly39	73	Teemu Selanne	48	7	Andy Bathgate	7	Bill Durnan
bobholly39	74	Valeri Kharlamov	47	8	Georges Vezina	8	Dit Clapper
bobholly39	75	Adam Oates	46	9	Teemu Selanne	9	Frank Mahovlich
bobholly39	76	Eric Lindros	45	10	Frank Mahovlich	10	Cy Denneny
bobholly39	77	Andy Bathgate	44		15		16
bobholly39	78	Sprague Cleghorn	43	1	Brett Hull	1	Brett Hull
bobholly39	79	Charlie Conacher	42	2	Jari Kurri	2	Jari Kurri
bobholly39	80	Earl Seibert	41	3	Turk Broda	3	Turk Broda
bobholly39	81	Tim Horton	40	4	Bill Durnan	4	Charlie Gardiner
bobholly39	82	Dickie Moore	39	5	Anatoli Firsov	5	Max Bentley
bobholly39	83	Martin St. Louis	38	6	Clint Benedict	6	Aurele Joliat
bobholly39	84	Tony Esposito	37	7	Frank Mahovlich	7	Bill Durnan
bobholly39	85	Syl Apps	36	8	Cy Denneny	8	Cy Denneny
bobholly39	86	Bill Durnan	35	9	Dit Clapper	9	Sergei Fedorov
bobholly39	87	Connor McDavid	34	10	Joe Malone	10	Boris Mikhailov
bobholly39	88	Joe Thornton	33		17		18
bobholly39	89	Milt Schmidt	32	1	Brett Hull	1	Sergei Fedorov
bobholly39	90	Jarome Iginla	31	2	Turk Broda	2	Ed Belfour
bobholly39	91	Mark Howe	30	3	Sergei Fedorov	3	Martin St. Louis
bobholly39	92	King Clancy	29	4	Brian Leetch	4	Eric Lindros
bobholly39	93	Drew Doughty	28	5	Bill Durnan	5	Brian Leetch
bobholly39	94	Bernie Parent	27	6	Borje Salming	6	Duncan Keith
bobholly39	95	Patrick Kane	26	7	Boris Mikhailov	7	Bill Cowley
bobholly39	96	Mark Recchi	25	8	Elmer Lach	8	Boris Mikhailov
bobholly39	97	Serge Savard	24	9	Bill Gadsby	9	Zdeno Chara
bobholly39	98	Al MacInnis	23	10	Nels Stewart	10	Bill Gadsby
bobholly39	99	Pavel Datsyuk	22				20
bobholly39	100	Paul Kariya	21			1	Eric Lindros
bobholly39	101	Joe Malone	20			2	Martin St. Louis
bobholly39	102	Frank Mahovlich	19			3	Brian Leetch
bobholly39	103	Cy Denneny	18			4	Erik Karlsson
bobholly39	104	Aurele Joliat	17			5	Pavel Bure
bobholly39	105	Boris Mikhailov	16			6	Tony Esposito
bobholly39	106	Dit Clapper	15			7	Jarome Iginla
bobholly39	107	Valeri Vasiliev	14			8	Mark Howe
bobholly39	108	Max Bentley	13			9	Serge Savard
bobholly39	109	Norm Ullman	12			10	Bernie Parent
bobholly39	110	Elmer Lach	11
bobholly39	111	Borje Salming	10
bobholly39	112	Sid Abel	9
bobholly39	113	Dave Keon	8
bobholly39	114	Billy Smith	7
bobholly39	115	Luc Robitaille	6
bobholly39	116	Shea Weber	5
bobholly39	117	Rod Langway	4
bobholly39	118	George Hainsworth	3
bobholly39	119	Curtis Joseph	2
bobholly39	120	Carey Price	1

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[Canadiens1958]

Bench Brawl, well reasoned and structured.

BobHolly39. All over the place.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Bench Brawl, well reasoned and structured.

BobHolly39. All over the place.

Thanks.

I thought my list would be more radical than it ended up being compared to the field.

 

[ChiTownPhilly]

BobHolly39. All over the place.

Lists can be interesting to peruse, but voting patterns really tell the story when it comes to how participants respond to the discussions. The list of @bobholly39 would be right there among the ones I'd like to see in "before-and-after" versions. Just to cite four more historically prominent names among his movers, he reassessed Lemieux and Bobby Hull upwards, and grew more skeptical of Mikita and Sawchuk. In terms of that re-think, I'd say he went "four-for-four" with that. [I hold a minority opinion with Lemieux, I know.]

Another thing about that list is that he has a now-leading 15 "unrequiteds." [In personal top-100, but not on The Panel's final list.] It's not so much the quantity of the names that interests me, it's the names themselves. Let's look:
Doug Gilmour, Erik Karlsson, Ron Francis, Scott Niedermayer, Tony Esposito, Bernie Parent, Serge Savard... all stood for election.
Pavel Datsyuk... just missed standing for election.
Adam Oates... a little bit off-the-pace.
McDavid, Doughty, Recchi, Kariya....

all these aren't consensus names from the perspective of our project-- but few of us would be stunned to find these names on the list of a professional sports-media individual attempting such an exercise.

And that leaves- Luongo/Lundqvist.

Most of us have alighted (ossified?) into the position that there hasn't been a stone-awesome goaltender since Brodeur hung them up. I include myself in that company. Maybe I'm among the ones that have this wrong. The more curious point is that these names appeared on bob's list at the expense of Clint Benedict and Charlie Gardiner. Still, the voting pattern demonstrates that bob gave Praying Benny & Chuck a fair hearing, as shown by how he placed them on his ballots.

[Bob's CPDs, in addition to Benedict & Gardiner, were our CPD-champion Cowley, and Firsov.]

 

[Vilica]

And that leaves- Luongo/Lundqvist.

Most of us have alighted (ossified?) into the position that there hasn't been a stone-awesome goaltender since Brodeur hung them up. I include myself in that company. Maybe I'm among the ones that have this wrong. The more curious point is that these names appeared on bob's list at the expense of Clint Benedict and Charlie Gardiner. Still, the voting pattern demonstrates that bob gave Praying Benny & Chuck a fair hearing, as shown by how he placed them on his ballots.

[Bob's CPDs, in addition to Benedict & Gardiner, were our CPD-champion Cowley, and Firsov.]

Part of the reason why Luongo and Lundqvist are so hard to grade is because of the nature of goalie awards, and how the additional teams and talent flowing to the goalie position has made it more difficult to be seen as elite via the reception of end of season awards. Take Lundqvist's peak, from 09-10 through 15-16, where he put up a .923 save percentage over 7 years. If you looked at all goalie performances over those 7 years, Lundqvist was the best of the full time starters. However, he only received 1 AS-1 and 1 AS-2 honor, for years where he had a .930 and a .926 save percentage. If you think of Lundqvist's true talent being a .923, then .930 is 2 standard deviations above his average, and .926 would be 1 standard deviation[1]. So for Lundqvist to get any postseason recognition, he'd need to post an above average year by his standards.

Contrast that to Jacques Plante, for his 7 peak years from 55-56 through 61-62, put up a .921 save percentage. He received 3 AS-1 and 3 AS-2 honors. The 3 AS-1 years had save percentages of .930, .925, and .923, while the 3 years for AS-2 were .920, .924, and .915. Goalie performance in that era was a bit more diverse, so you could say 2 of the 3 years Plante won AS-1 honors, he had +1 standard deviation on his true talent level of .921, and 2 of the 3 years that he won AS-2 honors, he had an average year. Because of the limited number of teams, that's still enough for Plante to receive the honor, he doesn't need to have an outlier season.

Basically what it comes down to is that in a 30 team league where 15 goalies are true talent .915 or greater, one of them is going to have a +2 standard deviation year, and a few others are going to have +1 standard deviation years, and those outlier years are going to win the honors over an average Lundqvist year. A goalie would basically need to be a true talent .930 for their average year to be considered All-Star or Vezina worthy. In a six team league, with 6 goalies competing for 2 slots, average years for good goalies can be rewarded.

You can try to account for this structural difference in two ways - either only consider AS-1 honors for the old goalies, or consider high finishes in All-Star voting or Vezina nominations to be equivalent of AS-2 honors for modern goalies. For me, that's why goalies are so hard to rank. You almost want to treat older goaltenders like baseball treats its 1880-era starting pitchers - just acknowledge that the stats generated were part of a different era that no longer exists[2].

You also have to account for team strength factors, with is a whole other can of worms. Take Ed Johnson's 63-64 season, where he managed a .914, basically a +3 standard deviation season for him, that got him 12 all-star votes in total. Given Boston's weakness at the time, that's probably the best save percentage he could have wrung out of himself; with mostly the same roster as the year before and the year after, the Bruins were -42 that year in Goal Differential compared to -83 and -87. It went unrewarded because that .914 was basically an average year for a Chicago or Montreal goalie in that era.

If you look at modern starting goalie outlier seasons since the lockout, as seen here: Player Season Finder | Hockey-Reference.com, of the top 25, only Antti Raanta, Cristobal Huet and Steve Mason had teams did not have a positive goal differential. It took Scott Wedgewood putting up an .893, Jose Theodore putting up an .881 or Ray Emery putting up an .894 to turn that differential negative.

[1 - I've been really casual with my definition of a standard deviation, basically switching between .005 and .01 with regards to save percentage. That's because it's really hard to define "true talent" as a goaltender, and team strength and simple variance complicate it even more. You could even argue that a .926 for a .923 true talent goalie like Lundqvist is within the realm of an average season, and only the .930 is a +1 sd outlier. The same also applies to a few of Plante's seasons. You just can't say without running everybody's career like 1000 times.]

[2 - If I had to place Henrik Lundqvist on the list of goaltenders that were ranked in the top 100, I'd put him somewhere between Sawchuk and Dryden and Tretiak, in front of Brimsek.]